• Soup@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Did…did Vance just call European countries “backwoods”? He couldn’t possibly have, right? He’s not that stupid…right?

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    2 months ago

    “I’m not going to go to some backwoods country and tell them how to live their lives,” Vance added. “But European countries should theoretically share American values, especially about some very basic things like free speech.”

    The US ranked 26th in the world when it comes to free speech, with several members of the European Union higher up the list, according to the 2024 Global Expression Report.

    😑 I’m going to have to disconnect from the news more often moving forward

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      2 months ago

      most of europe explicitly does not have free speech, because it’s commonly understood that harmful speech exists. i don’t know what he’s trying to convey with that idea but he comes across as misinformed, and not a little bit controlling (“should”)

      • Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Americans always freak out when they hear Canada has hate speech laws and claim they’re anti free speech.

        Most of us don’t ever need to worry about hate speech laws, because most of us aren’t going around calling for violence and open bigotry against entire ethnic groups.

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        2 months ago

        American here! Its because this is all rhetoric for the idiots that follow him. He doesn’t care if Europeans see him as an idiot, he cares that the idiots here see him as big brained. And the rubes eat up anything that has “free speech” in it because they generally interpret that as “its OK to be racist and misogynistic, its my right because freedoms!”

        Hope this helped explain.

        And probably also explains why I want to leave.

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    2 months ago

    I think it’s clear that we can never rely on the US again in any respect. Absolute chaotic backwater sinkhole of an oligarch fascist state.

    We’re on our own.

    Maybe it’s good that we know that now.