Lemmy is a worse platform for women than Reddit was EDIT this link is an OLD POST that contains my thesis on the state of lemmy and is not the context of the much more recent comment in the screenshot. sorry for any confusion caused by this juxtaposition, my main goal with having this linked is to expose how nothing has improved

  • Aatube@kbin.melroy.org
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    2 months ago

    IMO the context does absolutely make up for it. It’s a reply to:

    Wait so the idea is do not sleep with any men? Even men who support your views and rights? This just seems like it would radicalize more incels or generate more sexism. Like the average person who did everything they could is going to go on a date and be told “I’m not have sex until the government is fixed” which would make me say “ok, well, hit me up in 4 years.”

    The reply got downvoted because it virtually doesn’t address the argument. I read the parent comment as “this course will only inflame society’s opinions on women”. I agree that this doesn’t mean SA would be warranted.

      • spujb@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
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        2 months ago

        isn’t it funny? “stop radicalizing me! stop radicalizing me!!!”

          • spujb@lemmy.cafeOPEnglish
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            2 months ago

            fair but have you considered the optics of saying you are tired :/ you seem to be implying that it’s all men making you tired (i didn’t see a “not all but some” disclaimer 😬) and i must say you saying such things on a platform with 99% men is more likely to harm than further the movment …

            (deep sarcasm)

    • ShareMySims@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      2 months ago

      IMO the context does absolutely make up for it

      It really doesn’t, since the comment you quoted is basically saying that women making decisions over their own bodies is the cause of misogyny, which is the most generic MRA victim blaming bullshit which doesn’t deserve to be legitimised by being seriously addressed, nor defended by people pretending to have good faith.

      • Pup Biru@aussie.zoneEnglish
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        2 months ago

        the comment isn’t saying women can’t make their own decisions… the comment is saying that the guy wants to have sex, and if he can’t then they’re incompatible partners right now… women are allowed to make choices about their bodies, and men are allowed to make choices about activities they’d like to have in their lives

        the reply comment implies that he only thinks about using a woman for sex, which is not what he’s saying at all

        another example would be if 1 person wanted to live in the city and the other wanted to live in a farm: likely a deal-breaker, just like not having sex

        • Aatube@kbin.melroy.org
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          2 months ago

          this is a horrible read. it’s about how men not getting incentive to do the right thing would result in e.g. lawmakers being pressured to repress women. it’s fine if they only 4b those who don’t respect them or abortion

          • Darorad@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            My issue with 4b is we know it doesn’t work.

            What’s the one thing that we know helps people stop being bigoted? Exposure to the people they’re bigoted against. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2705986/

            The 4b movement is like saying “the solution to racism is segregation”

            On an interpersonal level, women absolutely should be wary of every man they come across, but that doesn’t mean a more extreme version of that works as a cultural movement.