• davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      1 month ago

      Almost 25 years of that attitude from the US is how this war started in the first place[1], and now hundreds of thousands are dead or injured and millions are displaced.

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    So many incredibly stupid takes in comments. This is not a game. This is not a fucking Netflix special. The escalation ladder is so easy to go up, but so hard to climb down. This is a terrifying development.

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      1 month ago

      If Russia starts nuking shit, wouldn’t Russia be starting ww3?

      Or are we supposed to just accept the implication that only western countries have agency?

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        The favorite weapon of the westoid, acting like the biggest imbecile in the world and claiming history starts not when they choke you, but when you break their wrist so you can breathe.

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          Let’s take this metaphor at face value for a second.

          What in the endless litany of grievances you call history could possibly justify pressing the launch button at this particular junction in time?

          I’m serious, make the best possible case you can for Russia starting a nuclear war right now.

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            That the US is letting Ukraine use NATO missiles and guidance systems that could carry a nuclear warhead they’ve ALWAYS kept a doctrine of first use for. This new doctrine is still not as aggressive as the American one, and this was the entire reason for the conflict, NATO not pointing nuclear weapons at Russia minutes from Moscow. This latest attack was aiming for nuclear infrastructure. How much more provocative does it get?

            Americans really need to shut the fuck up about Russia starting a nuclear war when they’re the ones instigating and funding conflict and blocking the peace talks Ukrainians want. When Iran gets tired of Israel and the US endlessly massacring civilians over there you chicken hawk libs are gonna pretend they developed nuclear weapons just to be mean.

            You really really care about the Ukraine war? Get shipped there so they don’t have to kidnap citizens out of weddings to put them on the front line. Otherwise, shut up and stop trying to kill the rest of us with you.