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      26 days ago

      See, Ubuntu only requires pressing next 6 times, and Fedora is only 8.

      That’s essentially what it boils down to nowadays.

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        26 days ago

        Unless you want tpm backed full disk encryption in which case… Good luck

        One click for Mac and windows, a lifetime of fun for Linux (except arch w/sysdboot which works pretty good)

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          26 days ago

          I’m happy with regular password FDE, i think i’m more likely to encounter hardware failure (and then need to read the drive from another machine) than theft of the drive.

          It’s a good point though, I’m sure many people do need this feature. Ubuntu is “working on it” but so far i guess it’s mostly not working except for VMs

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            26 days ago

            I have a media center that serves over the internet via VPN, I don’t want to leave it unencrypted but I also don’t want to have to go home and type in a pass every time California has a power outage, which is monthly during the dry fire season and >monthly during the “storm” season. I wouldn’t care as much for my personal laptop or anything, but for servers it seems like an absolute must have and…what is Linux for if not servers?

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              I think the traditional way to do that is via dm-crypt, which you can set up with an ssh server.

              You can also use a network-shared file rather than a password for LUKS but it’s not as straightforward to set up as a password. If you are doing something like tailscale then it’d be unlocked as long as you are on the VPN

              Typing in a password in-person at a data center would be a huge hassle, agreed

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                25 days ago

                But…it’s literally what the tpm chip is for. Like there may be other options, but the tpm chip’s purpose in life is to do this thing. And it’s been doing that for a decade. Seems pretty traditional to me. But Linux folks in some venues treat it like a plague that needs to be eradicated.

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                  25 days ago

                  Looking at RHEL docs it seems to also work there. The same instructions probably work in Fedora but idk I’ve never done it myself

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                    20 days ago

                    I’ve done the recommendation for opensuse and fedora, both failed to boot properly. Weirdly arch was the easy one that worked out of box.

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        27 days ago

        What is the very first thing you do after installing the super private and much sekure Linux? You download Steam and give Valve your data. This is bullshit.

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            Yes, that’s my point. You will eventually log into something when using the computer. So while it’s weird that MS made it mandatory to sign into Windows 11, who cares.

            They can also get your data without an account if they wanted.

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              27 days ago

              On Linux, you can install Steam inside a sandbox for better security. Easy to do with either Flatpak or Bubblejail. This makes it so that Steam does not have full file system access.

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                27 days ago

                Not something most people are gonna do. If you need privacy and security on the level where even Steam worries you, Windows can be made private too. It’s not even that hard. You just install a different ISO that allows local accounts and do all the necessary tweaks to harden it.

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                  Flatpak is installed on basically every Linux distribution. Literally all I do to install Steam is go to the Software Center and search “steam” and click install. It takes 2 clicks.