ID: Drawing of a duck billed platypus underwater, they’re wearing a rainbow coloured t shirt and a pink bum-bag, and saying: “Ally is not something you can self-identify as, it’s a title that you earn. Let your actions speak for themselves!”

Credit: Sophie Labelle

  • GiantFloppyCock@lemm.ee
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    16 days ago

    I agree with speaking with your actions here, but at the same time, this seems like some weirdly unnecessary gatekeeping.

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      16 days ago

      If someone feels like this post (or any other boundary set by the people they claim to want to support) is keeping them from being an ally, they never were one in the first place.

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      16 days ago

      If you’re not actually doing any allyship, in what sense are you an ally?

      Theoretical allyship is irrelevant.

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        16 days ago

        Simply saying out loud you support it IS supporting it.

        I mean, it’s the minimum amount, but thats more than none.

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        16 days ago

        What is allyship to you?

        Does one need to be overtly politically active or can one simply change minds in their social circles?

        Must they sign petitions and call politicians or can they simply be a comforting or understanding shoulder to a marginalised person?

        How much legwork is required to be an Ally? Is there a scorecard to keep in order to meet criteria?

        Obviously, passive acceptance without any action isn’t explicit allyship but must one be openly militant about LGBT issues in order to be considered an ally?

        Does the real answer not lie somewhere in between? Maybe on a spectrum or sliding scale?

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          16 days ago

          The real answer is measured in how your actions have affected the lives of the people you claim to be an ally of.

          No, this isn’t always practical to measure, but if someone is saying “I’m an ally because I identify as an ally”, I’m certain they have done absolutely nothing to protect/advance the rights of LGBT+ people.

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            16 days ago

            So in your opinion indirect action may as well be inaction?

            Say I have coworkers with certain opinions on gendering people, use of pronouns or who still use dated terms like “Tranny” or “Shemale”.

            I spend my days correcting them when they misgender or reminding them of acceptable words to describe people. I have political discussions where we come to terms about how LGBT rights are human rights. They’ve corrected their behaviour and now speak of LGBT folks in a kinder light.

            I don’t directly see how those actions affect LGBT folks. I don’t have tangible evidence I have made a person’s life better through my actions.

            Am I an Ally or not?

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              16 days ago

              No, indirect action is a form of action, stopping a transphobe from being transphobic is a form of allyship, because presumably, you’ve saved a trans person from feeling unsafe around that person.

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                16 days ago

                Because you stated that, on the presumption their actions prevented transphobia, that person would be an ally. But that presumption can only be fact checked by themselves anyway; Does this not mean then, that a person should have the right to label themselves an ally if they self-assess their actions as allyship?

                Or does someone have to ally-check each of their actions once performed with some sort of… council or committee, as I have here?