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    Not every homeless person is mentally ill. Even those that are weren’t necessarily that way before; being homeless is not great for your mental health. So giving them a place to live would be an unequivocal good for all of them where as what you’re suggesting only really helps a fraction of them.

    Reopen asylums if you want, but they aren’t going to stop being homeless once they finish their treatment. Unless what you really want is just a pseudo prison to lock them all up in so you don’t have to look at them.

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          Mental health issues caused them to be homeless. People with severe Bipolar, borderline, or schizoeffective disorders can’t function in society without being heavily medicated, and a choice was made to not take that medication (I don’t blame them. Anitsychotics have super shitty side effects).

          Sure, homelessness might make it worse, but their illness is what led to the homelessness.

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        What percentage of people with lifelong mental health issues are homeless? What percentage of the housed population has lifelong mental health issues? Should we lock up the ones with houses in asylums too?

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                No the ones you posted are as disingenuous as posting crime stats to imply that black people are inherently violent. Correlation is not causation and you can’t just look at them in a vacuum.

                Without knowing what the baseline for mental health is how do you even know that 80% is statistically significant deviation from the standard population? I can tell you for certain that around 60% of people I’ve met have lifelong drug problems, homeless or not.

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                  Have you been to a section 8 neighborhood? What you’re suggesting would be even worse

                  Each person needs the help they need…. Some homeless folks just need a break, for sure! I’ve been there myself. Some of them are legit crazy and homeless for a good reason, I’ve lived alongside them and you can’t just give them a home and all is well, they legit need professional help. Putting those folks up in housing alongside the folks that do legit just need a little help will taint the public perception against all of them and screw up a good attempt at solving the issue. We really need a system in place to evaluate these folks and get them the level of help they really need, but that would be socialism and that’s bad so I guess let’s all just keep suffering hahaha

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                  how do you even know that 80% is statistically significant deviation from the standard population?

                  What a ridiculous question

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                    1 year ago

                    Then you should have no trouble providing me with the stats that prove how ridiculous it is.

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        And a near-0% of them will ever make progress on that without a home. All of that is downstream from having safe and secure housing.