Lets take a little break from politics and have us a real atheist conversation.

Personally, I’m open to the idea of the existence of supernatural phenomena, and I believe mainstream religions are actually complicated incomplete stories full of misinterpretations, misunderstandings, and half-truths.

Basically, I think that these stories are not as simple and straightforward as they seem to be to religious people. I feel like there is a lot more to them. Concluding that all these stories are just made up or came out of nowhere is kind of hard for me.

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    23 days ago

    This argument is a very common one. It’s only valid at a scientific standpoint, since you can’t really scientifically prove something that transcends the laws of nature. However, at a historical standpoint, the existence of supernatural phenomena can be considered. There is also no evidence that supernatural phenomena does not exist.

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          22 days ago

          Not really, because every non-falsifiable theory is true at the same time. I mean, I can’t forbid anyone from considering.

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            22 days ago

            And that’s what I’m advocating. For people to sit on the fence, instead of leaning hard-science, or hard-supernatural.

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                22 days ago

                That doesn’t make them worthless. Have you ever listened to stories that may involve potential supernatural forces?

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                  22 days ago

                  Yes, I don’t believe any of them to be true. Most cultures got incompatible explanations to them, without a way to tell which is actually correct - my take is that each explanation is made up. And because people believe those explanations, they are not interested in digging into natural explanations.

                  Examples: seizures, schizophrenia, natural disasters, weather, infectious diseases

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      22 days ago

      I’m not sure what you mean about a historical standpoint. I don’t think there’s anything in the historical record that could be considered actual evidence of supernatural phenomena. History as an academic discipline is a kind of science and generally approaches the subject matter with the scientific method.