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Most of the anti-ICE organizers I know in my American city are anarchists who are opposed to anything that isn’t “spontaneous” or “autonomous” and try to discourage people from joining or allying with any parties or organizations that try to organize against ICE. They complain that any higher level of organization “co-opts” or “saps energy” from the movement and limits anti-ICE activity to peaceful protesting. If they made these criticisms and then did more themselves then I could get on board with it but when I sat with them during their attempt to blockade a garage that was being used by ICE vehicles I watched as they literally got up and moved the barriers out of the way every time a vehicle needed to pass through. They have bragged about supposedly getting into physical fights with cops during an anti-ICE protest but it seems like that didn’t ultimately make any difference for immigrants. The only other actions I see them encourage are small unaffiliated peaceful protests originating within immigrant communities or documenting and monitoring ICE. I never see them try to grow this baseline into anything that could effectively drive ICE from the city or stop the kidnappings. WTF do I do here. What Is to Be Done. I feel hopeless.
China is BAD if only the silly easterners would listen to the very successful western ultras like myself they would actually be communist!
Oh my bad I thought this was the hexbear news com. /s
Is it that bad over there these days?
If I were Xi, I would simply press the full communism button. All that’s covering it is this thing labeled “dialectical and historical materialism” but that can’t be anything important.
Lol exactly. Theyre literally indistinguishable from fed reddit posters at this point.
Heh. Gottem.
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Just saw the UK’s speech at the UN general assembly and its the one who contained thr most time and emphasis tqlking about AI… i am left to wonder how much Nvidia money is in the UK government.
There are days when dealing with capitalism feels like a parody version of real life. The fuckton layers of parties involved in any given process, the underpaid CS who don’t have enough time to read what you’re saying and/or are too constrained to give more than boilerplate answers, the technological systems that are badly designed or go in and out of maintenance whenever. There’s so much convoluted nonsense. And this on top of it being in the US, a country whose power brokers are actively pulverizing it for their short term ends.
Dead Internet Theory is one thing, but some days, it feels like capitalism resembles something like what I might call “Dead Management Theory” - like nobody is actually in charge, in a meaningful capacity that can smoothly operate what actually needs to occur. I’m exaggerating of course (just as I don’t literally believe in Dead Internet Theory), obviously some things continue to function, but it feels very empty at times in terms of organization and clerical efficiency. I don’t think it’s that management is literally missing exactly, but it’s like there’s this molasses effect on the process, due to all the layers of bullshit, that if something is a little off, it’s a way bigger deal than it should be? Like for a fictional representation, when Peter Gibbons forgets about TPS reports and gets reminded about it by eight different bosses. It feels sorta like that. Like there’s more organizational going through the motions than there is practical functionality.
The word you are looking for is “Kafkaesque.” I’ve only read The Trial but he really nailed that feeling down.
I feel like living in western society at the moment is a mashup of 1984, The Trial, and Dr. Strangelove.
Interesting, I’ve never read The Trial, but now I’m curious. I have definitely seen Dr. Strangelove though. I think the most unrealistic part of Dr. Strangelove is the idea that the US president has good intentions lol. But the general circus act absurdity of it, yeah. In the US, the health secretary being anti-vax definitely feels like parody writing (though since it’s real, it’s less funny and more just ridiculously dangerous).
You should it dances back and forth between entertaining with its hyperbole and absurdity and then being excruciatingly dull with its descriptions of bureaucratic processes that make you want to pull your hair out.
See this a lot in my job which focusses on unemployment benefits. An application has to go through at least three different orgs and can take up to two months or more to be completed. And if something goes wrong between the instances, good luck. Sometimes it seems like nobody can fix it then and it’s all finger pointing. For what it’s worth it drives us employees insane too. Like driving a car with square tires: you can’t move forward.
Makes sense that it would bug the employees as well. I’d imagine you want to be able to solve problems for people, so struggling to be able to due to processes that are multi-layered and unwieldy, I can see how that’d be frustrating.
Saw some news article from my hometown of a guy making a website about our local language/dialect. He wants it to be preserved as fewer people speak it on a daily basis now. In the state of Northern Brabant we have our own dialect but the dialect from my hometown is even more different and, imo, pretty unique. Other people from Brabant would have difficulty to understand me, for example.
You’re supposed to speak proper Dutch if you want others to understand you, of course, and that’s why fewer people speak it. It’s kinda looked down upon as lowly educated / trash, which is sad. My dad still speaks it on a daily basis. He never got the opportunity to go to school so never learned further than the dialect lol. I can speak and understand it though living abroad and with my gf from another part of The Netherlands, there’s no use in speaking it. But reading the website I agreed with him and I feel like I should just speak it when at home. Would be a shame for things like that to disappear.
Slight chance emerging of me moving back to The Netherlands. Communism coming soon.
Which org would you join if you were to move back?
That’s a good question and I’m not sure yet. I believe the most serious commie movement is Rood but I also believe they are more trotskyist in nature. To my knowledge there are no other serious marxist or ML options, I think? Suggestions would be welcome.
It also depends on where I will go. It will probably be in the Amsterdam region (kidney for sale btw) and that would give me more options than Hendrik-Ido-Ambacht or wherever of course.
ive met some people from rood and they seem to be a mix of trots and MLs. and are quite dynamic now and focused on growth, so i think there is still room to shift ideologically
I think 4 orgs are an option, with a clear ranking. These orgs are SP, BIJ1, RSP and NCPN.
SP seems to be the worst option, even though they are the biggest. They have completely abondoned their communist history. They have actively banned communist members and their youth organisation Rood seceded because of this. I think they can’t be pushed left anymore. Right now they are a socdem party, but can imagine they will be pushed even more right towards social liberalism like GLPVDA.
Then you have BIJ1, my organisation. They are better than SP but worse than the other two organisations. But they are the best option in the elections. That’s one of the reasons why I will stay until after the municipal elections. What they do the best is linking anticapitalist struggles with discrimination, especially racism in an intersectional framework. It’s important that an organisation is anti-racist, and anti-discriminatory and that POC and other marginalized communities feel at home in the party. I’m in favour of intersectionality but it needs to be linked to class struggle, but a lot of party members don’t do that. Some don’t identify as socialist, but only as intersectionalists and some only care about advocating for their own group, abandoning intersectionality. Still most of the members are socialists, and Dibi calls himself that as well. But we call our party anticapitalist like we’re still afraid of the word socialist. And because there’s a lot of different types of socialists, from MLs to Trotskyists to Anararchists to DemSocs our ideology is pretty all over the place. Some of them want ‘tankies’ out of the party. There’s even a Signal app group called ‘BIJ1 tegen tankies’. We can be pushed left but it will be difficult if not impossible, especially with people openly calling for ‘tankies’ to be removed from the party.
RSP seems like one of the best choices. They are growing fast and have some MLs in the party. Those who aren’t generally aren’t afraid to call themselves communists and are politically close to the MLs. Their youth organisation ROOD is very active as well.
NCPN is a good choice as well. They are explicitly ML and do a lot of organising although I don’t notice it that much. RSP/ROOD is bigger and more active. Their youth organisation CJB is especially active and their cutoff is only for your 30s. They don’t participate in elections, exept for one municipality and they haven’t answered my question if they will participate in more municipalities next year. They have some large growth but they’re still very small. They have a good newspaper, just like RSP/ROOD.
RSP and NCPN seem like the best options. But who of the two is better, I don’t know.
I would also like to give my voice for the NCPN as they’re the official Dutch fraternal party of the communist parties in the world that follow the IMCWP, which is the forum for Marxist-Leninist parties to convene and have discussion each year on relevant topics.
Hello everyone. Hows it going.
Going alright, only got 3 and a half hours of sleep last night though so work is going to suck. How about you?
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Vladimir Putin tried to sell me some drones behind the Albert Heijn
Someone’s gotta do something about him! I caught my kid with a hypersonic missile the other day and he wouldn’t tell me where he got it but I just know it was that good for nothing Putin.
I’m not quite sure how to word this but I got threatened at the place I work at.
It’s weird, because I can’t quite say that it was a direct threat.
Basically what happened is that two kids walked into the store asking for a lighter. Age restriction. I don’t give a fuck and actually give them some recommendations on some places that could possibly serve the needs they want in terms of a 2 dollar fucking bic lighter. Instead, they beg me for it, before asking me if I heard of what happened to the neighboring 7/11.
Mind you, the neighboring 7/11 got raided by multiple kids ranging from the age of 14-20. Ironic number, because I know one of the ones who is a regular who is 20 that is obviously connected to the two that came in later.
The two asked me if I heard of “Lee” who got his head cracked with a vase at the counter. I promise you, genuinely, because I thought they were shooting the shit after me telling them about the neighboring places that they could get “goods” from (oh shit, fed activity), I responded by showing them my 10 inch karambit and telling them I wasn’t worried about it. (didn’t flick it/show blade, didn’t try to brandish it as in “hey I’ll hurt you”, just simply like “hey i’m good, no worries”)
It wasn’t until they left immediately after “brandishing” that I realized they were trying to threaten me with that 7/11 comment. I genuinely had no idea. Now, I wonder if I should get a autism diagnosis. Only because I asked two people who came in afterwards if it sounded like a threat and they agreed. What do you all think? I honestly feel like an asshole for “brandishing” a weapon towards some kids who were literally talking about someone cracking a head at the neighboring gas station and me showing that I can defend myself; not even in a “fuck you way” but like “hey, I"m alright”.
I dunno, do I get a lawyer after this?
Nah dude I think yer fine. They wont tell anyone you threatened them because snithces get stitches. They are gonna tell the other kids that they shouldn’t fuck around while you are on shift.
In their eyes you didn’t even flinch when they were threatening you. You basically told them you are prepared to open a clown up without acting like you cared one way or another. They think you are cold as ice.
lol that’s awesome, wasn’t tryna go john-wick. I appreciate the insight tho.
was hoping they weren’t rich-shits.
What’s the “most communist” image you have on your computer right now?
Mine is this picture of a golden statue of Oh Chi Minh surrounded by gold star on red and hammer and sickle flags:
Goes hard fr
It does!
I don’t have that many communist images on my computer. This is the most communist one I could find
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Almost forgot to add this banger:
I’m on my phone currently but probably the flag of the Spartacus League
I’d say this is the best I’ve got.
Or maybe this one:
after a short look this is the best I have.
Not an image, but the first communist related media that I found when scrolling through my phone gallery
a photo of our toothbrush
