God created humans. Why didn’t he create us without any evil?
Why? God created the concepts of evil and free thought. He could have made free thought possible without evil. Why did he choose not to? Or is there some higher truth of good and evil, which god is bound to?
What?
Those points make unfounded assumptions about the nature of good and evil. That’s literally the point of the argument. You say “things have to be this way, it can’t work otherwise”, but god made all those rules, right?
Free thought is possible without evil. Lots of people just choose to be evil and greedy and violent. Lots of people also choose to support one another and build societies, or advance scientifically, or study ecology, or advocate for human rights
Evil will be punished by hell and goodness and patience will be rewarded, the balance will be settled by a divine observer
Either god exists and we should play by his rules and act in an objective morality (feed the poor don’t be greedy golden rule etc) or he doesn’t exist and the world is this way because it is
Pain makes us sad, beauty makes us happy. It’s an objective undeniable truth that increasing happiness and minimizing pain for others is a good and moral act, why imagine anything different?
Sorry, I think I’m not understanding your point correctly. I agree that we should try to act morally, but that isn’t related to the argument of the post.
Very concretely: Your god created everything, including the very concept of evil. Since he is all-powerful, he must be able to create the exact same world, but without evil. We agree so far, right?
So why isn’t the logical conclusion that he chose to create evil?
Was the invention of electricity evil because it created the electric chair or was it good because it created home heating? God created free will, we chose to do evil with it. Being prescient he would have known what we would choose to do with it and still created us anyway, allowing both good and evil to happen. Can we agree on that part?
Tell me how evil was his creation and not ours. Give me an example of such a thing
God created humans. Why didn’t he create us without any evil?
Why? God created the concepts of evil and free thought. He could have made free thought possible without evil. Why did he choose not to? Or is there some higher truth of good and evil, which god is bound to?
What?
Those points make unfounded assumptions about the nature of good and evil. That’s literally the point of the argument. You say “things have to be this way, it can’t work otherwise”, but god made all those rules, right?
Free thought is possible without evil. Lots of people just choose to be evil and greedy and violent. Lots of people also choose to support one another and build societies, or advance scientifically, or study ecology, or advocate for human rights
Evil will be punished by hell and goodness and patience will be rewarded, the balance will be settled by a divine observer
Either god exists and we should play by his rules and act in an objective morality (feed the poor don’t be greedy golden rule etc) or he doesn’t exist and the world is this way because it is
Pain makes us sad, beauty makes us happy. It’s an objective undeniable truth that increasing happiness and minimizing pain for others is a good and moral act, why imagine anything different?
Sorry, I think I’m not understanding your point correctly. I agree that we should try to act morally, but that isn’t related to the argument of the post.
Very concretely: Your god created everything, including the very concept of evil. Since he is all-powerful, he must be able to create the exact same world, but without evil. We agree so far, right?
So why isn’t the logical conclusion that he chose to create evil?
Was the invention of electricity evil because it created the electric chair or was it good because it created home heating? God created free will, we chose to do evil with it. Being prescient he would have known what we would choose to do with it and still created us anyway, allowing both good and evil to happen. Can we agree on that part?
Tell me how evil was his creation and not ours. Give me an example of such a thing