• Astroturfed@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I feel horrible for the children, but I assume this level of violence is happening due to the fact that these “border communities” are the houses/land/farms the Israelis have been strait up stealing from Palestinians lately… saw a video of them just throwing a family out on the street and stealing their house for, whatever bullshit reason they had. Israel has been taking people’s homes and lives for decades expanding their borders illegally.

    No one should murder children. But you probably shouldn’t steal people’s homes and put children in them.

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      1 year ago

      That would be in the west bank, not Gaza. Gaza has very steady borders and no encroachment for a long time and Gaza is where the attack came from.

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        I admire that you’ve come with facts. Hopefully people will actually learn rather than parrot the narrative.

        Like, Iran and Syria planned this. They literally gas their own people. They just brutally attacked hundreds of innocent people. How is Lemmy apologizing a clear atrocity? How can you be so frickin callous and blind to the hate?

        It’s like going to New Yorkers on 9/11 saying, “yeah, it was inevitable” and then blaming Wall Street or some sort of thing.

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          Those New Yorkers would have been incredibly prescient to say that in the moment.

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      1 year ago

      I feel horrible for the children, but

      There should be no ‘but’ when talking about the murder of children and leave it at that!

      I feel like Lemmy is at a critical junction of its future development and sentiments like these are what turn people away.

      Lemmy has truly shown an ugly side these last few days and it’s sad to see.

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        When people use but in this context, it’s not a rationalization, it’s a contextualization. For some reason we keep going back like Israel has done absolutely nothing wrong in any capacity, and that’s just plainly false.

        Surely you can at least admit that Israel has not created an environment conducive towards peace.

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          The way we talk doesn’t lend itself well to making geopolitical statements vs valuation statements. Did Israel’s government create the circumstances that led to this – yes, geopolitically speaking. But in terms of making a value statement, I lay the full blame at the actual murderers’ feet.

          Obviously not every Palestinian murders civilians. Nothing can justify that. The terrorists are still bad people and squarely to blame, Israel’s actions just pointed them in a direction.

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        Lemmy has shown that it understands that Israel murders more innocents and children. Israeli genocide is cool tho, gotcha.

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          Just a sickening world view but you exemplify it well.

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        agree, but it’s not just lemmy, it’s every social media site. On bigger ones like reddit it’s just easier to only interact with specific groups. lemmy has the problem of being very small, so if a bunch of people leave it will hurt more. It feels like this conflict has always been unique in how polarizing it is.

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      That’s not the case in Gaza. Gaza has the 1967 borders and they’ve been respected since the mid 2000s when Israel forcibly evicted all Jewish residents beyond the borders in an attempt to engineer peace.

      There is not land based justification for what Gazans are doing.