• Razp@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    As is punishing all Russian passport holders for the action of the government. So it’s either both EU and Israel are monsters or neither is.

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        “Collective punishment is a war crime”. Except for Palestinians and Russians, of course. And anybody we disagree with. Fuck those civilians.

        We are hypocrites. We have double standards.

        I am just pointing it out.

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          Can we agree that “not letting people with Russian passport travel in NATO countries”

          And “Slaughtering civilians en masse in retaliation to a terrorist attack”

          Are just a wee bit different as far “collective punishment” goes?

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            You missed the point :

            Russia invades and terrorises the Ukrainian civilians. We punish Russian civilians aka collective punishment.

            Hamas invades Israel and terrorises Israeli civilians. Israel punishes Gaza civilians aka collective punishment.

            In the first case we are OK. In the second case we scream at Israel (the OP post) “Collective punishment is war crime!!”

            We. Are. Hypocrites.

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      Not being able to spend summer in the Algarve and being brutally murdered is totally the same thing.

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        “Collective punishment is a war crime”. Except for Palestinians and Russians, of course. And anybody we disagree with. Fuck those civilians.

        We are hypocrites. We have double standards.

        I am just pointing it out.

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            You missed the point :

            Russia invades and terrorises the Ukrainian civilians. We punish Russian civilians aka collective punishment.

            Hamas invades Israel and terrorises Israeli civilians. Israel punishes Gaza civilians aka collective punishment.

            In the first case we are OK. In the second case we scream at Israel (the OP post) “Collective punishment is war crime!!”

            We. Are. Hypocrites.

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          Collective punishment IS a war crime. Travel is a privelege, not being able to go on holiday to specific places isn’t punishment. Do you realise most countries aren’t permitted to travel somewhere?

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            It’s not about traveling, and not about Russians at all. I just gave an example. Look,

            Ursula von der Leyen was against Russians destroying the energy infrastructure of Ukraine.

            The same Ursula supports energy blockade of Gaza by Israel.

            It’s just pure hypocracy.

            In both cases the civilian population suffers the most. In both cases it’s a war crime and should be condemned.

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      Launching missiles across borders is different than securing your own borders. You can’t possibly really be trying to equate the two?

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        “Collective punishment is a war crime”. Except for Palestinians and Russians, of course. And anybody we disagree with. Fuck those civilians.

        We are hypocrites. We have double standards.

        I am just pointing it out.

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      As a punished Russian living in Lomonosov, let me explain you what has changed for us since this “punishment” started:

      Absolutely nothing.

      (Oh, yes, Coke bottles are now green, instead of red.)