Was recently banned from a whole bunch of DB0 communities for, as best as I can gather, downvoting once when I viewed by All (potentially accidentally while scrolling).

Important notes:

  1. I don’t use scripts.
  2. I don’t mass-downvote Communities. If I see a post I generally don’t like when browsing All, I may downvote one post, block the Community and move on.
  3. Some of the communities I was banned from don’t have any posts in them so I wouldn’t have been able to downvote anything.
  4. Of all of these Communities, in my history I downvoted one post in one of them. Voting in this manner is not vote manipulation. It’s quite literally a feature of the platform and as a mod of another Community, I would consider it pretty good etiquette.
  5. One of my bans reads “Appeal Granted, not a brigading member” but I’m still banned.
  6. I don’t troll.

WTF is going on here?

EDIT - Updated Info from the conversation below: In the initial image, you can see two “ban waves.”

The 10 bans three months ago stem from a single downvote in one Community. It was @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com See here: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/34853477

I was called out by name for a single downvote and culled from a score of Communities I did not participate in by them.

The other bans from two months ago are from four total downvotes over a 10-month timeframe in one Community.

I have also stated in this thread that I don’t have issues with AI-gen images, but there are shoddy ones and well-done ones.

EDIT 2: Now unbanned from the ten Communities listed as “3 months ago” in my initial image, but have been banned from three more because of this thread with the reason given being “self-proclaimed anti-AI brigader” which are two things I didn’t claim to be. God dammit Lemmy…

  • Kay Ohtie@pawb.socialEnglish
    31·
    2 days ago

    Can this admin see these votes without diving through the database because he’s an insecure douchebag? Like Mastodon only shows some things even to admins without being gross and unethical by digging into the database directly.

      • Kay Ohtie@pawb.socialEnglish
        31·
        2 days ago

        That feels gross, like if I could see poll voters on Mastodon.

        Makes it feel like Lemmy was written by some insecure folks.

        • ipitco@lemmybefree.netBanned from community
          41·
          2 days ago

          It’s not lemmy, it’s just how the fediverse works to prevent double voting

          Mastodon also being on ActivityPub, that’s really likely the same thing, except maybe not implemented in the UI, but that could be accessed by the API or in the DB

          • Kay Ohtie@pawb.socialEnglish
            3·
            2 days ago

            I’m well aware, I run an instance and know it’s in the DB. But on my instance I’d have to trawl the database for it instead of getting a nice UI look. That’s what I meant.

          • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
            1·
            2 days ago

            Mastodon shows you the votes just by clicking and seeing who liked the thing. No admin access necessary.

            This is one among a few different reasons why hoping for votes to be private on Lemmy is a lost cause.

              • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
                2·
                2 days ago

                What? Sure it does. Upvote a comment from Lemmy, then go to Mastodon and look at the same comment, and you’ll see a “like” from the Lemmy user that upvoted it. Right?

        • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          2·
          2 days ago

          I think what seals it for me is that mods and admins can see how you vote, but the mod log just says “mod”.

          • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
            4·
            2 days ago

            Mod log shows admins which mod was involved in the decision.

            I will agree that the whole dichotomy where some information is federated freely across the network, but then hidden from some users because they are not very special people in our very special club of special people, is ridiculous. The thing is though that it’s hopeless trying to keep “who voted on this” or “which moderator moderated this” secret in any genuine sense. And so, I think it should just be shown.

            The whole “moderators act in secret” “votes are secret” thing is just an inheritance from Reddit, and emulating Reddit was always a terrible decision done by people who apparently dream of running a little fiefdom where the users have no power. There just shouldn’t be an informational gap between the virgin user and the chad admin. We can all just be people, sharing the network.

          • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            You can see the details if you use the Tesseract front end for Lemmy when you check the mod log, if your instance supports it.

              • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                1·
                2 days ago

                Unfortunate follow up: the dev of Tesseract just announced today that he’s quitting and it’s not going to be supported any longer 😔 I imagine instances that already support it will continue doing so for a while, but unless there’s a fork it’ll probably eventually break.

    • Dasus@lemmy.world
      42·
      2 days ago

      No idea.

      Pretty sure Davel is just a mod, so that’d be a “no”, but again, “no idea” is my more reliable answer.

      I did downvote several of his comments, but not like “spam downvoted”, but from honest disagreement. Not my fault everything he writes is bullshit. So after I downvoted a few comments while replying to him, he replied "oh see, here on ‘whatevercommunity’ we ban people who downvote others for no reason’, as if I had no reason.

      They’re just extremely silly and see through and you ought to question everyone on Lemmy about it. Because while opensource open platforms are great, they’re also super easy to infiltrate.