Basically they’re completely miserable and evil. Their life revolves around annoying me, and they both stay at home all day. I think the husband might work from home but honestly, could be that neither works at all.
I don’t have a problem with this except for the fact that when I had a work from home customer service position I had to quit because they wouldn’t stop banging crap and having nervous breakdowns cause I guess they couldn’t stand hearing my voice. Not to mention it literally sounds like a zoo 24/7, I’ve never met more unhinged children and I think something is actually mentally wrong with them. They will both cry at least 20 times a day, literally screetching and they sound MISERABLE, it’s not shrieks of joy.
Moving is NOT an option (long story). I haven’t slept in literal years, their children both literally SCREAM at the top of their lungs in the middle of the night regularly too. If they don’t wake me up, their parents slamming the doors full force do. It’s honestly traumatizing to hear them crying.
I am a QUIET person, don’t have guests , don’t watch tv, don’t listen to music etc etc etc. Any time I make the SMALLEST noise during the day they will SLAM SOMETHING FULL FORCE right after. Literally every single time.
Their favourite abuse tactic though is to torment me psychologically by lurking around my car. FULL DISCLOSURE THERE ARE NO LAWS AGAINST ANY OF TIS WHERE I LIVE so i have to find a way to deal with it myself
First of all, it’s a designated parking spot in an apartment complex, and I have zero legal recourse for any of it.
- They sit on and lean on my car
- They bring giant sharp objects between the small gap between my car and the other car, and my car and the wall
- They bring their baby stroller between those as well and roll it back and forth
- They let their children ride BICYCLES between the small gap as well
- They throw their cigarette butts there, as well as sunflower seed shells
- Car has scratches, scuff marks and FOOTPRINTS on it
- After telling them to stop, they got their friend to come the next day and do the exact same thing. She also placed a giant piece of paper on the ground right beside my car, just to annoy me, and “dropped” her receipt as well after loitering there for 20 mins for no reason and unzipping her bag to get that stuff out
- When the original perpetrators came back the next day, they decided to instead just be right beside my car, moving their baby stroller back and forth in front of it. I activated my car alarm to get them to **** off, and they called building management complaining that I was “harassing” them and have “something against their children”. She claimed the alarm “woke her baby up from it’s nap” yet she stood right beside the loud beeping for THREE WHOLE MINUTES with the stroller, before moving away.
- They regularly get their kids to draw ginormous and hideous 6 ft x 6ft chalk drawings, only in front of my car, and nowhere else
- There is literally ZERO reason for them to loiter around my car.
First of all, there’s an entire parking lot. Secondly, there are approximately 7 parks in extremely close proximity, most of which are a 15-30 second walk from the parking lot, the others within 2-15 minutes.
They are literally just doing it to annoy me, and trying to make it seem like I am some evil person that “has something against them and is unhinged” and that they “did absolutely nothing wrong” and I “have something against their CHILDREN!!!”
Edit: to anyone suggesting to record it, how? Which camera should I use? My phone doesn’t pick the sound up well, which mic should I use?
Setup a camera to watch you car. Record everything you can, especially reactions to you making noise. Make intentional noise and record the response. Build up a body of evidence and then take them to court for harassment. The court will order them to stop, and if they don’t, they will go to jail or be fines. This sounds miserable. Those kids sound like they’re probably being abused. Psychologically, if not physically.
If you truly can’t move, then you need evidence (backed up somewhere, too) and competent legal advice. It’s better if this evidence-gathering is surreptitious, so they won’t perform “better” during the recording.
P.S. In your jurisdiction, is it illegal to smoke near children? If it is, a tip to child protective services might be appropriate.
Lol. The law here is a joke. People will laugh in my face (they already have)
No, it’s not illegal to smoke near children. Lol
It’s even legal to smoke inside your apartment and directly in front of public entrances 😃
Do you not have a building manager? Get recordings of everything you said happens, the loitering, crying, door slamming, etc. and build a case. You say moving isn’t an option, why is that? Shitty neighbors suck but there’s really not much you can do to make them leave
Idk why my phone doesn’t pick up the stuff well… they can just use plausible deniability for everything, it’s extremely hard to prove anything malicious is occuring.
It’s not their fault their children cry. It’s not their fault the door slammed, it was an accident. They’re allowed using the parking lot, it’s a shared space. Etc.
Ferreal. Not “illegal”? Not hardly. IANAL, but
OP, document every instance (date of, persons involved [#, names, etc.], location, and even # of recent repeats of same/similar) both actively (notepad) and passively (24/7 mv-trig cameras [out of reach & sorta hidden, but also doorbell & car-mounted, et al]) with cloud sync as a smart bonus option. This may not seem illegal to you, but I assure you that this behavior is unlawful, and perhaps even worthy of a restraining order, at least. Chat with an attorney with a free consultation (SoP) to go over the details. Advocate for yourself, and stop playing asshole games with these people.
Can you recommend any cameras? I have one pointed at the parking lot but I literally need to manually go through the footage for an hour every single fucking day, cause it’s too far and it doesn’t accurately detect the motion.
As for the car, idk how that would work I guess I would need to leave a phone with a data plan inside it? And connect it to the camera in the car? Idk
Stop playing asshole games Wat did I do tho
Maybe in america something could be done but I live in a literal shithole where the police literally won’t do jack shit and seems like all of the lawyers don’t even know any basic laws
I wish I knew how to help further, but it seems that local resources (attorneys, library, etc.?) might be the most accurate way to uncover relevant ordinances & protocols for repair of this situation. To be clear, were I in your shoes but in my home area, I know precisely what to do and how to effect that solution. Hopefully, some of that info is able to at least inspire brainstorming toward your happier, healthier future. 🙇🏽♂️🖖🏽
OP would be pretty hard pressed to get a judge to sign off on a restraining order against people who legally rent the apartment unit right next to theirs
Are you high or just ignorantly confident? That’s exactly what each unique restraining order’s details define.
Now, whether their local judicial system is functional, that’s as yet untested, et al.
This really sounds like harassment. Not sure where you are, but given your writing, I’m gonna guess you’re in a place where you could go before a judge to get a protection order. This would be a civil matter in the USA, for example. And if they’re repeatedly damaging your property, that’s not legal pretty much anywhere that buys into capitalism. Maybe consult a lawyer if you need help figuring out how best to approach this if you get stuck trying to figure out laws and procedures in your jurisdiction.
They’re gonna be like “it was an accident” or “my kid did it not me” cause pretty sure one of the times it was the kid holding the weapon (of course they were allowing it but still)
Another thing they did was pretend to drop something so they’d have another excuse to go between the wall and my car. Problem is even if I set cameras up there are so many blind spots.
Idgaf about the car damages nearly as much as the stress and psychological torment and anxiety. The car damages aren’t significant, they’re not dumb. They’re just doing everything they can to torment me just enough and get away with it.
Record it for evidence.
What is that
You’re not a very serious person, are you?
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The first sentence is pretty clear, I don’t know how else I can explain it.
I’m not clicking on that
Then bask in your own ignorance I guess
It’s a wiki link to a product that could help…
What product, it says mosquito…
Yeah, if you’d read the article, you’d know what it is. You can literally buy these and deter the exact behavior you’re complaining about.
I searched mosquito device on Google. It says it only works on teenagers?
Buy what, a mosquito?
Your only option is to move. I realise that you said you can’t but you need to try and find a way to make that happen. There’s really no way to solve this level of bad neighbours, anything you do to try and fix the problem is going to result in them escalating the situation. They aren’t rational people, you can’t reason with them or do anything that will incentivize them to change their behaviour.
It sucks, but that’s the situation you’re in.
If it’s too loud for you to sleep, it’s also too loud for them, even louder. That means they will die soon as sleep is very impotant to stay healthy. You could secretly leave them boxes of cheap strong booze and cigarettes to impact their health even more. Maybe store them in a way that children can’t access them, but adults can easily steal them. They will steal from you, thinking they got you, but you were playing 4D chess. Alternatively, you could pretend someone gifted you a few bottles, but you don’t drink or can’t drink as much and ask them if they could take it.
I appreciate the sentiment. The dude already smokes but the woman doesn’t and probably never will. Either way at most it’ll make him die 10 years sooner than he should. Or he’ll be one of those genetics freaks that lives to 120 while smoking. I mean those things don’t give me any solace. My whole life will be wasted cause of their bs. They’re actually evil and deserve to go to hell for ruining someone’s life
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