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Summary
Democratic divisions intensified as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Nancy Pelosi sharply criticized Chuck Schumer for supporting a Republican-led funding bill to avoid a government shutdown.
AOC called Schumer’s decision a “betrayal,” urging Senate Democrats to reject the legislation backed by Trump and Elon Musk. Pelosi called the bill a “devastating assault” on working families.
Schumer defended his stance, arguing a shutdown would empower Trump and Musk further.
The controversy sparked suggestions among Democrats that AOC might challenge Schumer in a primary.
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Start a fucking progressive party already
As she should.
Hopefully she will run for his seat in the future.
Ya’ll really still think they aren’t all playing on the same team, huh?
His vile cowardice is something I’m seeing people talk about, but the sheer stupidity of it isn’t touched on.
CHUCK. HE IS GOING TO FUCKING KILL YOU! THE D NEXT TO YOUR NAME MAY AS WELL BE THE STAR OF DAVID ON YOUR CHEST YOU DUMB FUCK! DICTATORS DO NOT LET “OPPOSITION” PARTY MEMBERS LIVE. NO MATTER HOW HELPFUL THEY WERE IN GIVING THEM POWER!
Like are you fucking stupid?
We will NEVER make progress by compromising with those who will not compromise with us in return.
AOC needs to form a new party or at least go independent with Bernie. I’d really like an alternative to the Democrats because I’ll never be voting for them again.
No. She’s on a path that will shape the democrats of the future. If she leaves she will become irrelevant, and she knows it.
Democrat voters are tired of compromising. MAGA thinks they want to burn the US down so they can “own the libs” … well let’s fucking do it. Let’s test their theory in the laboratory of life.
I hope she primaries him. Vote all those decrepit elders out of office.
Unfortunately, he’s not up for reelection until 2028, at which time he’d be 78 years old, so probably wouldn’t be running anyway.
Yeah, 78 would be waaay to old for anybody to get elected
/s
Is this your first time? American politicians don’t give up power just because they are old. Feinstein, McConnell, Biden, Thurmond are just a few examples.
Fucking Pelosi. That dinosaur is 84 and still has her thumbspikes in every pie
(+2 points if you can name the dinosaur)
It’s Iguanodon!
They do that because committee seats are determined by seniority, so they need to elect dinosaurs who’ve been there forever even if said dinosaur doesn’t know where they are or what year it is.
And by then all of the positive things our government used to do will have been demolished we’ll all be too sick and exhausted to care anymore.
The only silver lining here is the remote possibility of progressive Democrats breaking out to form their own party. At least then the US will have a legitimate opposition party.
When people attempt to do that Republicans win even more power. Case in point: Ralph Nader.
Our voting system has us stuck in this duopoly and it will not change without destroying the country and starting over.
You realize this was your last election right? It’s not going back to normal.
I guess we will see won’t we. I’m still voting in 2026 and 2028. I’m not going to be discouraged by all the nihilists on the internet that are trying to convince me I’m powerless. Maybe I’ll find that process is finished but I’m not rolling over or giving up. Hell you could be a Russian bot trying to make us feel apathetic about voting by just vaguely going … “ you guys realize it’s all over right ? Yea keep on sucking on that copium pal! 😈”
you’re not powerless, far from it - but you need to exert your power before 2026 and 2028 if you want your vote to matter.
your power comes from your ability to go on strike and sabotage, not from voting
Quit sucking your own dick
Yeah they had their last election, ever, back in November. If they ever hope to get election back, they’ll need to actually fight for it instead of sitting on their butts.
I am an Independent and think both sides suck on the whole political spectrum in this country. I’m also from NY and both of my Democratic senators voted to pass this blank check to Trump and Elon.
The Democrats have gone about dealing with Trump and his disciples in Congress the completely wrong way from day one. They try to be civil and favor the traditional ways of solving things in Congress. They have basically been bringing a pink plastic toy baseball bat to a gun fight this whole time that Trump has been in office this term.
And because of that, here we were with 2 horrible choices for them. But one choice would have shown that they had enough of the B.S. and had some kind of a spine. The “right” thing for Chuckie to do was to be united and stand firm that they wouldn’t approve this CR and force a shut down unless they had a say in some of the solutions in the bill. Pain was coming either way, why not go down fighting and show that you were on the right side of history?
Given the past month and a half (holy shit it feels like it’s been a decade) and the track record of Elon and Trump so far, I am very afraid of what is coming in the next month and a half – let alone when this budget fight resumes in September.
Any dem that has been in an elected position longer than 10 years is the cause of this.
Schumer’s argument is shit. They’re going to go after government agencies with or without the funding bill. With the finding bill they get to choose. Without it they have to shut down everything. Passing that bill means they get more maneuvering room, not less.
And with a shutdown the Dems would get to shout about ‘the GOP shutdown’ for however long it lasts which would also help to galvanize the public against MAGA.
There have been government shutdowns caused by Republicans in the past and they were never blamed on the Republicans. Hell, the Republicans blamed Dems for making them do it and it stuck.
Do not assume Democrats have any ability to control the optics of a situation at all. They are feckless.
Fucking THIS. These feckless cunts couldn’t even be bothered to frame it as the GOP’s fault? They’re going to blame you for anything bad that happens anyway, look at their track record for the past ever.
About half the seated Democrats right now need to be primaried hard. How did we have a more coordinated opposition party during Trump’s first term? It’s worse this time around and they are showing absolutely no will to fight.
what are you supposed to do? The congress controls the budget, literally as defined by the constitution, the executive is currently trying to pretend that isn’t the law. And the supreme court doesn’t exactly seem content about doing anything over it, so it’s not like you can do much as the congress. You literally can’t win here, we have to wait for all the lawsuits to hit for anything to begin happening.
what are you supposed to do?
Schumer went from “we have to be a united front” to “I’m gonna vote for what republicans want!” He pretended to hold the former position for less than a day.
So uh, not that.
Hmm, yes, it’s almost as if we have a government that isn’t functioning and there seem to be no options that are legal under the current government…
Challenge him. He’s has no business being a party leader if he’s as spineless as the Republicans who pushed this bill.
She would have to be in the senate to take over senate leadership in the short term. For his seat itself, there’s been house members - including moderates - starting to support the idea her primarying him when his term is up in 2028
Several members — including moderates — have begun voicing support for a primary challenge to Schumer, floating Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) and Dan Goldman (D-N.Y.) as possible candidates, three House Democrats said.
https://www.axios.com/2025/03/14/house-democrats-angry-chuck-schumer-shutdown
I don’t want him out in 2028, I want him out now.
He can realistically be stripped of senate leadership in the short term. Call your senators and tell them to support removing him from leadership
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The fact that people don’t even know she can’t be a senate leader because she’s in the house speaks volumes about the quality of solutions we see on lemmy. It’s ridiculous.
I think they’re implying “Run for Senate, if she wins, replace the seat of power with her.”
well that’s a pretty tough pitch given he’s not even going to be up for election for another four years.
Spinelessness is the chief defining quality of the entire Democratic Party. There are very few individual exceptions and those people need to start a new party. The US needs a real progressive party. The establishment Dems have made it very clear they won’t support a true progressive candidate, so what’s the point of bending the knee to these fuckers any longer?
Its hard to decide if they are spineless or complicit. Not that it amounts to much of a difference in the end.
Sufficiently advanced cowardice is indistinguishable from complicity.
And honestly now is the time to do it. I have absolutely zero faith we will have honest elections in the next couple decades so splitting the funding between neo lib corpocrats and an actual progressive party for the people will not affect the crooked elections under trump since they won’t win anyway. The time for progress is NOW
