Eugene V. Debs' Ghost

I said then, and I say now, that while there is a lower class, I am in it, and while there is a criminal element I am of it, and while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.

Anarchist/libsoc. If we’re stuck with a government, it should use its taxes for healthcare and education, not murdering.

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  • I challenge you to find me any fervent anti-natalist younger than a teenager. I’ll challenge you to find any that aren’t terminally online.

    “I challenge you to find anything [you belief in] that isn’t someone I can disregard and not think about.”

    Anti-natalism isn’t a philosophy you’re born into, it’s something you develop over time through rational observation and logical reason.

    Right, neither is socialism, liberalism, capitalism, nihilism, natalism, or any belief system. You only do what your parents told you to do until you start to have your own thoughts and feelings .

    It’s not a literal “Ask the fetus if it wants to live”, it’s more a “The fact we can’t have informed proper consent is odd.” It’s not a “Haha, gotcha! You should kill yourself!

    It’s more the question of “Since we can’t ask, is it ethically correct?” And just doing what nature wants us to do is not always the best.

    Not even going in the “muh overpopulation, kill all da browns!!” reactionary way, humans are evolutionary made to be hunter-gatherers, not make books, computers, medicine, money, or anything else we do as the species in 2024 and onwards. Apes don’t know how to make an atomic bomb, humans do. Birds don’t know how to construct the most deeply beautiful sonnets that make every listener weep in awe every time, humans do.

    Humans are more than what we were evolved to do. We question everything, including ourselves. Sometimes the fact a question can’t be answered, let alone even properly asked, is a quandary.

    This is not a personal “Underpants, you need to prohibit yourself from having a kid”, I can’t control that for anyone but myself. I’m never going to tell a parent or someone wanting to be one that they are a selfish monster, despite what one of my parents was.

    You weren’t asked to be born, but you must continue it once you are. The only other choice is willful harm to yourself. If I went to a maternity ward and started smashing in skulls, I’m not an anti-natalist, I’m a murderer. It’s the same reason why abortion isn’t murder.



  • Correct, you can’t ask. It’s a question of ethics.

    It’s something to just ask. No one was asked to be born. Some where cheated out of a good life. There’s people born into poverty and disease who don’t know a good life. They feel that pain and suffering without the option to go out that isn’t killing themselves.

    You weren’t asked, I wasn’t, our parents weren’t, and so on. It’s not evil, it’s just the pure simple fact of “No one was asked to be born into a world where you need to earn money or you will die.”


    • No right to abortion in the United States
    • Giving someone who didn’t get asked or consent to being born, the forced existence of life.
    • A child for a parent is expensive, mentally draining, and you have to be a good parent
    • You also have to be the parent for a child with any special needs, from allergies to mental issues to being born without limbs
    • If the child is any form of “other” to society, they will be picked on, and then possible harmed by the rise of Neo-Fascism
    • Work or starve, work or be cold, work until you die. Another tax number, another corporate slave.

    Being born is fine, once you’re here you should try to live life to its fullest. But I don’t want kids, I would be a horrid father.