• The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldM
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    4 days ago

    I’m not totally sure how to moderate this with our “no politics” rule in this community. I’m thinking the situation (and this meme) is more independently funny than about a political agenda or bickering, so I’m leaving this up.

    The spirit of the rule is simply to prevent this community from being another political battleground, and I don’t think this post crosses that line.

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      3 days ago

      Everything is political. You guys should remove every single post in this community or you’re hypocrites

      • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        3 days ago

        “everything is political” is a phrase designed to reduce the actual meaning and implications of the word politics. That said, I agree with the point of your message

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          No, it’s a phrase meant to demonstrate that “no politics” is a rule only usable by people whose existence isn’t political. Straight white men existing is not political, but when women’s rights, immigrants rights, LGBT rights are all under attack by the right wing, suddenly their existence is “political” because their right to exist is actively under attack by the current regime.

          • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            3 days ago

            Except, “everything is politics” means everything. It doesn’t just mean everyone… Basically, my disagreement with the statement is to say that gravity is not political

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              Wait till we get a flat earther in office who denies the existence of gravity, then it’ll be political.

            • firadin@lemmy.world
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              Tell that to Galileo. Tell it to your kids the way the US is going with the Department of Education being removed.

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          3 days ago

          Who on earth uses a lemmy.blahaj.zone account to spout that kind of transphobic nonsense?

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              Firadin explained how banning politics hurts trans people. Everything is politics, and everyone is part of everything. Everyone’s identity is political. Trans people’s existence is political, and that means you need to be okay with politics. It’s part of being pro trans rights.

              • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                I think you missed the part on the chain where I was in support of allowing politics.

                I disagree with the basis of “everything is politics” because to me it feels like that reduces the seriousness of what are actually active political endeavors.

                I don’t ever agree with stances that ban politics from spaces. Because everyone should keep it on mind until the issues are fixed enough that it is not urgent.

                The reason I disagree is that I don’t generally see random memes about cats, or physics existing as political. I don’t think people can reasonably call those political.

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                  The soulists want to abolish gravity and make the laws of physics into suggestions. The flat earthers think Newtonian physics are a conspiracy by the government to hide the truth.

                  Any example of an apolitical thing you can give, I can explain why it’s political.

                  Things like the abolition of capitalism aren’t serious business because they’re political. They’re serious business because they have huge consequences. You’re missing the reason they matter, and that’s a problem we can solve by admitting everything is political.

                  • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                    Any example of an apolitical thing you can give, I can explain why it’s political

                    I disagree with the idea that just because something can be debated in politics, that it is by necessity political.

                    Basically, I think an object at rest remains at rest until it’s actively debated in politics