Greene said she’s “not a fan” of Obamacare but complained that her “own adult children’s insurance premiums for 2026 are going to DOUBLE” if Congress ignores the issue.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., broke with her party Monday evening by calling for action on expiring Obamacare subsidies to avoid premium hikes, adding a prominent MAGA voice to the cause led by Democrats.

In a long post on X, Greene, the far-right MAGA firebrand, made it clear she was not in Congress when the 2010 law passed.

“Let’s just say as nicely as possible, I’m not a fan,” she wrote. “But I’m going to go against everyone on this issue because when the tax credits expire this year my own adult children’s insurance premiums for 2026 are going to DOUBLE, along with all the wonderful families and hard-working people in my district.”

  • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    277
    ·
    2 days ago

    because when the tax credits expire this year my own adult children’s insurance premiums for 2026 are going to DOUBLE

    Fucking conservatives cannot care about something until it directly affects them.

    • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      54
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      Yes, but, at least we have that? Also, with the house 50/50, having any sitting representative defect would be big.

      There’s still hope. We also have top brass in the militaries scoffing at Hedgweth, the midterms coming up, and even Trump possibly recognizing that Fox News is lying to him. Plus the lawsuits delaying deployment of our militaries into the cities.

      There is still hope, and no one can predict the future.

      • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        25
        ·
        2 days ago

        No because the way conservatives work is that they’ll complain only when things happen to them, and then completely shut up about it once they realize their side doesn’t care. They’ll take having things worse over speaking out against their own party. They are a cult and are not able to think for themselves.

        If cult says double premiums are a good thing, they’ll privately grumble and then take it on the chin.

        • arrow74@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          ·
          2 days ago

          That’s how they used to work. My dad decided to vote in a government that directly harms me and my siblings. Sad to see MTG being a better parent

          • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            2 days ago

            She’s all talk but I promise you in a couple days she won’t mention this again at all.

        • some_designer_dude@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          2 days ago

          I don’t know if this is entirely true. Have you heard about MTG rallying against healthcare cost increases?

          A lot of R’s are just sports fans for their team. They only care about things that affect them because that’s the only way they can understand issues, lacking any sense of empathy necessary to “imagine” scenarios other people might be living with.

          This moronic ape lady finally understands one of the issues. Might as well applaud her and hope others follow.

          • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            2 days ago

            You’re correct but they fall in line. If the rest of conservatives are quiet and don’t care, they’ll accept the changes even if it hurts them. They’ll just blame “the liberals”. Just like they’ve always done.

    • circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      24
      ·
      2 days ago

      This this this. Show me a conservative that a) can understand that different people are affected by different things at different times, b) that people in government need to accept (a), and c) that they aren’t the main character, and I’ll show you Half Life 3.

    • TheFogan@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      I was going to say… what wasn’t on my bingo card, is MTG acting… fucking sane, almost consistently at this point.

      Healthcare, Epstein files, hell she actually did better on not giving weapons to isreal than AOC…

      Was she actually that ignorant and stupid when she started, but because it was ignorance and not corruption… she can actually learn? Or maybe she actually had some kind of mental illness, and she’s secretly getting it treated now that she has government level healthcare?

      I know that more likely than not the shoe is going to drop… but it’s like she’s magically changed from Sarah Palin to John McCain.

    • solxyz@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 days ago

      She’s a very clever politician. She acted all wild, crazy super-MAGA when Trump’s popularity was waxing and she needed to build popularity in her very red home state. Now she’s got her seat more-or-less locked in and she is preparing for a run for president, so the insanity is toned down quite a bit and she is expressing views that have quite a bit of national popularity.

  • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    46
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 days ago

    She’s somehow well on her way to being one of the most reasonable republicans in congress and I never saw it coming

  • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    1 day ago

    It’s almost as if every policy position she’s ever held was based on nothing but delusion and imaginary grievances.

    • TheFogan@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      27
      ·
      2 days ago

      This broken clock has just been on fire lately… I still have to say it’s not coincidence.

      I think it’s because she actually was stupid. Most republicans are smart opportunists, they don’t believe anything they are saying, but they know what to say to rile up the crazy conspiracy theorists and get the votes, money and power to do what donors want.

      MTG is one of the conspiracy theorists created by this rhetoric. she still believes in the democratic weather machines, still believes climate change is a hoax, but she’s saying those things because she actually believes them, not because of a paycheck from Exxon. Which makes her very dangerous when she’s given real evidence of actual conspiracies like, big insurance companies putting money to charge insane amounts of money, or an actual leader of Isreal committing a genocide, or an actual ring of elite pedophiles.

      Bottom line the sellouts like Charlie Kirk and Patel etc… that can turn it on and off at will. IE “release the files now!”, oh trump says he doesn’t want them released, my bad “trust the government they know what they are doing”.

      She has no off switch… when she spouts a conspiracy nonsense it’s because she believes it… which means they can’t wave a bag of money or tell her “same team stop”.

    • Frozengyro@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      2 days ago

      I think part of it is she isn’t fully part of the GOP establishment. So when her opinion is different than them, she actually has the balls to vote her belief not party lines.

      • nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        10
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        I expect more of this.

        The party identity is based on opposition. Like a petulant child. It’s connected to the conspiratorial thinking: “THEY are tricking us!”

        Since there is no science and Truth is a personal, felt revelation, they cannot maintain a unified picture of the world

      • DagwoodIII@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        2 days ago

        She can play off the “maverick/rogue” schtick

        Doesn’t mean she’ll actually do anything that could hinder the Party.

    • maniclucky@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      2 days ago

      She’s a rabid dog pointed a useful direction for once. Let her go to work, just don’t turn your back on her.

    • MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      It’s more heartbreaking when they make a novel point about something that makes you realize you were on the wrong side because what you were focused on was less important than what they brought up.

      When they just agree with what you already thought, it’s weird, for sure.

  • doingthestuff@lemy.lol
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    25
    arrow-down
    6
    ·
    2 days ago

    The affordable care act has been garbage since day one. We pay more for care than anyone else in the world. Time to completely remove profit from healthcare in the US. A bandaid to Obamacare isn’t worth the time.

    • Typhoon@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      15
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      I disagree. You’re not going to hammer out an alternative before millions of people lose coverage. Keeping it from getting worse while coming up with a replacement should be a prtiority.

      • doingthestuff@lemy.lol
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        20
        ·
        2 days ago

        I’ve gone many years without coverage and paid for minimal care with negotiated smaller cash payments up front. Then I was forced to pay for insurance with a massive out of pocket and had no care at all for the first handful of years of the ACA even though I technically finally had “insurance”. The system is so broken we need to finish breaking it and build it again without profit. I lived without care for over a decade, people can go a few months.

        • Typhoon@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          13
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          2 days ago

          You survived so everyone else should too? That’s ridiculous and self-absorbed.

          Did you have cancer? Or diabetes? Heart disease? Were you in a car accident? Asthma? Back problems? Osteoperosis?

          Because some of the people you just said you want to remove medical coverage for will have those problems.

          You’re lucky you survived without coverage. They might not be.

          • doingthestuff@lemy.lol
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            14
            ·
            2 days ago

            Yes I have had a bunch of conditions and still do. Deadly. Paralyzing. Blinding. Bowel destroying. Heart destroying. And more. I still haven’t been to the dentist in 25 years. I’ve been to the doctor once in that time.

            You know what, I am for everyone getting care. But not until everyone can get care. Don’t ask for me to help pay for care for others when I can’t afford care myself. Until I can receive care too, my answer to paying for others’ care is solidly no.

            • Pup Biru@aussie.zone
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 day ago

              Don’t ask for me to help pay for care for others when I can’t afford care myself. Until I can receive care too, my answer to paying for others’ care is solidly no.

              yknow the point of single payer is that it becomes cheaper for everyone because you all of a sudden have bargaining power… right?

              you could afford healthcare if you contributed to a big pool that paid for everyone… and more importantly, set the prices of care however they damn well please

              single payer is like a union, but far more powerful because it’s a monopoly (and a monopoly that’s actually good because it’s for the benefit of all)

              • doingthestuff@lemy.lol
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 day ago

                I’m all for single payer, but we don’t have it. Right now I’m subsidizing care for others while unable to receive any. I’m sorry, but it’s fucked.

            • AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              2 days ago

              Yeah, for sure, man, everyone believes you have a bunch of deadly, debilitating issues that you’ve allowed to go mostly untreated for 25 years. Those sure are deadly conditions, you know, the conditions that you can ignore for decades.

              • Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                2 days ago

                I mean, just living will kill the shit out of you. I don’t guess that there is a deadlier condition than being alive.

        • ToastedRavioli@midwest.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          2 days ago

          There are literally millions of people that would most likely die if they went without care for “a few months”

          Not to mention, what is a few months? Its been nearly a week and these people cant even restart the government. A few months of further negotiation would probably be 24 months or some shit

          • Pup Biru@aussie.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 day ago

            also i’m going with the webmd fallacy… it’s new; im coining it now; i think you know what i mean

        • PodPerson@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          2 days ago

          The “burn it all down” thinking is how we have so many Trump voters.

          • BakerBagel@midwest.social
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            2 days ago

            It all needs to be burned down. This isn’t a uniquely American issue, as the cracks are becoming impossible to ignore across the entire western world, but the right wing here and abroad are the only ones advocating the the dissolution of our broken systems. The problem is that they want to build everything back up to benefit exclusively the wealthiest in society, while the liberal centerists who are the main opposition want to continue to slap bandaids on what is clearly a lost cause. The far right will continue to gain ground and pulverize everything in their path if the mainstream “left” (Democrats/Labour/Liberal/Rennasisance/SDP/Civic Platform etc) continues to operate as is. Radical change is coming, but the liberal parties are too busy trying to ensure that change doesn’t come from the left.

            America is probably the most difficult to change since the Democrats have lost just about all credibility nationwide, but France is a perfect example of what i am trying to explain. Macron’s centrist Rennasisance party has clearly lost public support, since every prime minister he appoints gets bullied out of power by both the leftist alliance and National Rally. He has to chose one to make concessions to, but refuses to enter talks with the Left Block, and any agreement with National Rally would put Len Pen in charge. Until these centrist parties start to actually address the issues their citizens are facing, said citizens will continue to flock to parties that are promoting radical change, regardless of what that change entails.

    • Pacattack57@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      2 days ago

      Blaming a bill (that was railroaded and made worse by republican concessions) instead of corrupt people and billionaires is crazy.

      • _core@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        2 days ago

        Obama had a supermajority for the first two years of his term. Obamacare didn’t have to be what it is.

        • chiliedogg@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 day ago

          That’s a myth. He actually had a supermajority for like a month.

          Al Franken’s seat was caught up in a lawsuit for a long time, and by the time he was able to take office Ted Kennedy got sick.

          Instead of resigning he just stopped showing up for months, stalling everything until he died. His seat was filled temporarily by the governor in late 2009 and the Senate broke the Republican fillibuster and passed a shitty Healthcare bill right before the holiday recess that was supposed to be cleaned up in reconciliation with the House bill.

          Then the Tea Party happened and took Kennedy’s seat in the special election, so the Dems only had 59 seats and couldn’t break another fillibuster. At that point the Dems could either give up or the House could pass a verbatim copy of the Senate bill so it wouldn’t have to go back to the Senate after reconciliation with the House bill.

          So the broken Senate bill had to be passed in the House, and that’s what went to Obama’s desk.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 days ago

      The affordable care act has been garbage since day one.

      Yes. The GoP stymied it at step1 of 50.

      We pay more for care than anyone else in the world.

      Yes. Your people do, your clinics do. This is a supply-side problem that single-payer clamps down on hard: adjust pricing or get no business.

      Time to completely remove profit from healthcare in the US.

      Absolutely.

      A bandaid to Obamacare isn’t worth the time.

      Don’t abandon the effort at the first failure of the first step.

      We need step 2 and 3 and 4 and…

      Although the Canadian system is being polluted and poisoned by mercenary care access and currently under threat due to so many doctors noping out of being threatened by antivax hillbillies, the Canadian system is normally effective, supported by taxpayers fully, and the average Canadian pays 1% less income tax than an American at the same income – even with healthcare in there. It scales with income, and I’m proud to be making enough that I can support someone who pays nothing.

      20% of us are on free basic dental care too. It’s new and beta, but it’s got potential.

      • doingthestuff@lemy.lol
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        2 days ago

        The ACA passed with zero Republican votes. The reason the ACA is garbage is not because of Republicans. It is because of bought and paid for Democrats. They’ll never give us health care without profit, your step 3 or 4. The people need to seize it.

        • theparadox@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 day ago

          The ACA passed with zero Republican votes. The reason the ACA is garbage is not because of Republicans.

          So incredibly disingenuous. Are you claiming that Democrats never once modified that bill in an attempt to negotiate with a Republican for their vote? They never conceded a single thing in an effort to gain Republican support? Republicans never made any public claims about the bill that made Democrats in conservative districts or states have to push back against provisions in the original bill?

          …and that is all ignoring the fact that if a few Republicans had supported the bill as a single payer solution, conservative Democrats would still have ruined it?

          Now, I am honestly of the opinion that Congress is half theater and that many times far more Democrats, if necessary, would work against progressive ideas if they didn’t have blue dogs to conveniently do it for them. To take the heat for stabbing their constituents in the back and refusing to give them what they want because they are bought and paid for, or simply brainwashed by the billionaire class and out of touch, thinking they know better than progressive peasants. I just despise bullshit arguments that Republicans don’t also contribute heavily to the effort of fucking up progressive policies.

    • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      2 days ago

      Tearing down the imperfect is bound to lead to perfection and not end in catastrophe. What could go wrong? The fuck is incremental progress?[1]


      1. said anyone who’s never actually accomplished anything of this scale before ↩︎

      • doingthestuff@lemy.lol
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        Well the imperfect has completely failed me pretty much my entire life. If it needs to fail more people to get it fixed, I’m okay with that.