Sorry (🍁) we did this without making a post, but after receiving several complaints we defederated from hexbear.net yesterday.

Here’s a few quick examples of poor conduct by hexbear users:

They warned their users to behave themselves, but that didn’t work: https://hexbear.net/post/280770?scrollToComments=false

Please read and respect the rules of the community instance in which you are posting/commenting. Please try to keep the dirtbag lib-dunking to hexbear itself. Do not follow the Chapo Rules of Posting, instead try to engage utilizing informed rhetoric with sources to dismantle western propaganda. Posting the western atrocity propaganda and pig poop balls is hilarious but will pretty quickly get you banned and if enough of us do it defederated. Realize that you are a representative of the hexbear instance when you post on other instances.

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    No calls for violence seems like a simple rule. And not every landlord is greedy mcshitstain with 50 properties, many of them are a single family with their starter home rented out, or a couple renting out their extra room.

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      Communists don’t care for that distinction, they believe all landlords (even non-exploitative ones like you mentioned) are inherrently exploitative and therefore deserving of death. Yes, this applies to you even if you just rent out a room, but don’t worry, money won’t exist and everything will be free!

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        Correction, terminally-online twitter communists don’t care for the distinction. People who actually go outside and put in the work aren’t making enemies out of individuals renting out a room, they’re too busy going after giant multi-national corporations buying out all the houses so that nobody else can get them, and then jacking up the rents once there’s no alternatives.

        Communism is about systems, not individuals. Anyone saying otherwise is either disinformed or is a radical liberal playing make-believe

          • Jerkface (any/all)@lemmy.ca
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            Yeah, you sound like you were really receptive to what they were trying to say, I’m sure you didn’t colour it at all…

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              Oh well of course they give the option of just doing what they say and completely restructuring society to stay alive in most cases, but imo that doesn’t count, I think they’re really just using that as an excuse.

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                I hope this is doing something for your emotional needs but it’s got nothing to do with anyone else. Have fun, chief.

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                    I’m not commenting on your misalignment with the ideology, but rather your intellectual dishonesty. You can’t even think about “ideologies like that” without twisting your own mind up and telling yourself a bunch of lies to make yourself feel better.

                    I’m not saying communism is good or bad. I’m saying: you don’t know because you are unable to examine it honestly and rationally.

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        I am far more right than socialists and communists and yet, what you say is something that you wouldn’t get marks for in the exams you have to take for our courses.

      • ram@lemmy.ca
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        All landlords for profit are exploitative. All profit is exploitative. You’re literally on the piracy instance, why would you wanna suck off capitalists? lmao

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          “Capitalists” aren’t some all powerful boogeyman stealing your essence in the night, especially when you broaden the category from “actually evil corporations” to pensioners or families renting out their starter home, or some guy renting out a room. I don’t feel it’s right to slaughter the nice old woman who rented us the punk house back in the day simply for trying to afford her meds in retirement, no. Sorry, but we’re just not gonna get me to agree that killing innocent people is “good.”

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            No, they’re all powerful boogeymen in control of our entire society who have us sell our bodies just to live. They do all this in daylight where it can be seen, and are such clever con artists are to make fools think it’s good and normal to do so.

            we’re just not gonna get me to agree that killing innocent people is “good.”

            I never claimed that, nor do I wish to kill the guilty, but if wishing execution (a penalty under law) of an oppressive class is not “killing innocent people”.

            But go off

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              entire society who have us sell our bodies just to live.

              And when this didn’t happen? Because on USSR you could go to jail if you didn’t work.

              On every society, if you want to enjoy things made by it and not do your part, you are just a parasite, just like the capitalists you are against. So maybe you are a capitalist wanna be

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                Who said anything about the USSR being good?

                Funny that you go to the old “you’re just jealous and that’s why you hate capitalism so much” pov though. I have no interest in your bad faith arguments, so I’m not gonna engage further than this. Google what arguments people use against that or something if that’ll make you feel better.

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                  I’m not talking about jealousy, I’m talking about people who just want to parasite other peoples work while they(you) think work is something made only by bourgeoisie

            • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Yes yes my landlady was part of some secret cabal that runs the world. I’ve heard this one before, next you’re gonna tell me it’s because she’s in league with the reptile jews or some nonsense, it’s all the same.

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          This is actually the Canadian instance, you seem a bit lost bud.

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              You’re literally on the piracy instance, why would you wanna suck off capitalists?

              Eh, maybe I misunderstood what you were saying here

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                I think you did. Person I was responding to had dbzer0 as their home instance, which was made with the express purpose of giving piracy on lemmy a (somewhat) dedicated home.

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      It is interesting that you conflate two things, like “no violence” (ignoring the violence that landlords, yes even small ones, do) and then also having the urge to defend and discriminate landlords with good ones implicitly not beeing greedy and single families. However what you wish for in the world is not what I hear when I go to the pub on the corner, there I will hear calls for violence against quite a few groups, trans people, women, minorities, marginalized, unhoused, politicians, leftists, antifascists, activistsm BIPoCs, neurodivergent, unhoused, etc. etc. plenty of times and fast.

      I just wish people like you would try to enforce your “no violence” rules in real life as openly as you do it here. Of course I would also urge you to see violence in denying people healthcare or housing, education, food etc, too.

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        Man sounds like you should move if you hear people threatening violence regularly against all those groups at your local pub

        ignoring the violence that landlords, yes even small ones, do

        Are we actually talking about actual bodily harm or is this a new made up definition you just pulled out of your ass

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          I see, you have never visited an institute of higher learning from the inside. Even reactionaries like Carl Schmitt would agree with my sentence, however you lack the political and sociological education to understand that. In short: Read up on violence and ask your friends who studied what violence means, especially how violence and monopoly on violence into the inner and into the outer works, ask what Weber’s definition was, too.

          pulled out of your ass

          I would like the mods to ban/defederate with this user, they break civility quite a bit.

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          I’d argue that landlords of all types are backed by the violence of the state. That a lord or lady doesn’t themselves toss you out and drag you off to jail isn’t really a meaningful distinction to the person being forcibly removed from their home.

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            The funny part is that in one breathe you utter the fallacy to your own argument. Being forcibly removed from whose home again?

            The one you paid the mortgage, down-payment, continuing maintenance, property taxes? Cause if that describes your home- guess what- you are a homeowner and cant be forced out of your home. If that’s not describing the house you are living in… you are a tenant and market conditions dictate what the rent will be. Nobody is going to let to you at a loss.

            So whatever reason you have for not being a homeowner means SOMEONE ELSE has to provide a home for you to live in. Which no one is going to just give you for free.

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                So. You just didn’t understand the point that you don’t own it? If you bothered to read I also made the distinction.

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                  Look, I can tell you’re really trying, you seem really excited. But honestly it feels pointless and a little sad arguing with you. Private and personal ownership are related but different, id maybe start there if you wanted to debate the merits of each.

                  I hope you enjoy your time on here still

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      In Berlin the stock exchange listed property companies own more than 20% of the flats, big corporations/large private investors own more than 20%, too, then there are smaller still very profit oriented companies, as well as smaller investors, basically 50-60% of all flats (and that amounts to more than 90% of all newly let out flats) are controlled by them, which means that to focus on small landlords is pretty irrelevant. Give me a specific city and specific ownership structure (which works well in some European countries in which plot information, company information and sometimes individual income information are online and open).

      “Many” in small landlords means too few to have market price changing effects. Even small landlords do take the worth increases of their plots which are related to things outside their control i.e. state investments, network effects etc. even the small ones take in renters so that the renters finance their mortgages. So they are not really different, though they don’t have the economic power to influence politics as much and abuse the court systems as much.