Sorry (🍁) we did this without making a post, but after receiving several complaints we defederated from hexbear.net yesterday.

Here’s a few quick examples of poor conduct by hexbear users:

They warned their users to behave themselves, but that didn’t work: https://hexbear.net/post/280770?scrollToComments=false

Please read and respect the rules of the community instance in which you are posting/commenting. Please try to keep the dirtbag lib-dunking to hexbear itself. Do not follow the Chapo Rules of Posting, instead try to engage utilizing informed rhetoric with sources to dismantle western propaganda. Posting the western atrocity propaganda and pig poop balls is hilarious but will pretty quickly get you banned and if enough of us do it defederated. Realize that you are a representative of the hexbear instance when you post on other instances.

  • Preußisch Blau@lemmy.ca
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    Their post about our defederation is absolutely unhinged, I must say – top keks if you can handle reading it. Seriously, though, I am quite shocked at the amount of vitriol on their instance; being a leftist myself, I don’t really understand the point of being mean to everyone that they would presumably want to help via their politics.

    “Oh, you live in a Western country and are subject to late-stage capitalist horrors? Let me save you – wait, you don’t agree with me? Then go screw yourself, good luck in the revolution.”

    Certainly education would be the solution, overcome the Stockholm syndrome?

    Oh well, good riddance.

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      They genuinely believe the dumb shit they say. Successfully indoctrinated cultists ready to be pulled by their puppet strings by anyone with the savvy and the need/desire

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        They genuinely believe the dumb shit they say.

        It is unlikely that anyone believes what they say, as why would you waste time talking about something you believe in? You already believe it. Your mind has been made. There is absolutely nothing more that can be said. Discussion is only interesting when you can learn something new, which means exploring the things you don’t (yet) believe in.

        There is good reason why every comment isn’t: “Hay guys, did you know that 1+1=2!?!?” – something you no doubt believe in. What are you going to learn by bringing it up again and again? Not much. There is no value in exploring what you believe.

        When someone says something, they are seeking more information to validate an idea they have. With sufficient validation the idea brought forward may transform into a belief, but that transition requires exploration. Talk is how we explore ideas.

        If you watch people, the pattern becomes quite apparent: Once something becomes a belief, interest is lost, and the talk about that subject will fade. They move on to something new that they want to find validation in. Sometimes people will get stuck on an idea that isn’t believable. This is where you find conspiracy theorists and the like, where people build up a whole persona around an idea that they keep failing to validate.

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            Well, no, I’m not settled on it. It is an idea, but it has not made it to belief status. I’m talking about it, after all. If it were a belief, what value proposition would there be in such an exchange?

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              You clearly think there is value in it, because you believe in it, want me to believe it too, and you are trying to convince me it’s right. If you wanted to convince yourself, you wouldn’t be talking, you’d be meditating. Yet here you are, arguing with me about it.

              It’s okay for people to believe what they say. Whatever it is you think will be true if people believe what they say but don’t want to be true, it doesn’t matter. Someday you’ll see that.

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                and you are trying to convince me it’s right.

                I’m not sure I see the logic in that. Of what value would there be in convincing you that it is right? I have no agency over your brain. It means nothing to me. I wouldn’t try to convince a stone that I am right and the only difference between you and a stone is that you can speak back, hopefully offering knowledge when you do.

                It’s okay for people to believe what they say.

                It’s okay, but what’s the value proposition? It takes work to say things. The brain expects payment for the work it does. Knowledge can be sufficient payment, but if you have a belief no more knowledge can be acquired. It is final. I’m not receiving cash, a hug, anything. So, what is it that I have overlooked?

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      Preußisch

      Prussian Blue being used as a user by someone also saying “top keks” rings the same for me as it does for @JennySmiles@kbin.social

      The Leuchter report was an inaccurate study that was trying to disprove that there were gas chambers at Auschwitz, to try to help Nazis in court. It did this by claiming that because there wasn’t any Prussian blue, that there couldn’t’ve been cyanide in the chambers/showers, since Prussian Blue contains cyanide.
      This is like saying that because you don’t have a cake, your kitchen has never had an eggs.

      But of course, when the walls of were tested cyanide was found.

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        Can’t believe I need to say this but yes the Holocaust happened, and it was bad.

        Prussian blue is also used in medicine, did you know that? I am a pharmacy student. There’s quite a few reasons I like the name. Holocaust denial is not one of them. I also watched the Myles Power video.

        Also I’ll never understand why non-rightoids can’t use kek, it comes from Korean to English via WoW.

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          Not sure who Myles Powers is, but I am glad that you’re not a garbage person.

          The reason why non-rightoids don’t use “top kek” is because it’s from 4chan. “kek” is from Wow, but “top kek” isn’t.

          Much like other phrases and symbols (like the Celtic cross, odal rune, swastika), once the racists use it to identify themselves, the non-racists shy away from using it.

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        Thanks for your posts. Sadly OP is not listening and is only trying to deflect (and defend 4chan implicitly). But at least some other people might be more cautious about them now. Since they are at most an early 20s student makes clear why they are so jovial about those things.

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      top keks

      being a leftist myself

      preussischblau

      liking military history

      X: [Doubt]

      None of your comments within the last 2 month point into any direction like that.

      Just a warning Preußisch Blau, the colour and name, is mostly used by what in the US would be Alt-Right people who try to link themselves to the German Empire (sometimes as substitute for the Nazi regime). Using 4chans kek hints at you being aware of that.

      If you want to educate yourself and really are German as you claim you can visit our museum to learn more.

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        Firstly, there is no need to warn me and be all condescending. Secondly, there are many reasons I like the name; military history is indeed one of them, but that does not mean I worship the historical nation of Prussia – I am not a monarchist. Thirdly, I do not live in the US and couldn’t care less about people who think American politics are global politics. Fourth, I do not need to constantly do a song and dance online to be a leftist. Fifth, kek comes to English from Korean via WoW and rightoids do not have a monopoly on language.

        “If you want to educate yourself and really are German as you claim you can visit our museum to learn more.” What museum? What do I need to be educated on?