This lady was an absent mother to her child and left him with the trauma of growing up without a protective/loving mother. He adapted and grew up accordingly. They have a very limited relationship now. She has no place shitting on his current relationship because she dislikes the way Mary treats him. This is some major dysfunctional projection.
Also, Brandan made some comment that he hopes Mary is nice to his mom and doesn’t trigger any sort of relapse. Mary should not have to walk on eggshells or put up with his mom’s nasty attitude because his mom has an addiction.
Also, her comments about the Phillipines and the poverty made her look like such an ignorant, arrogant American. I doubt she made an effort or took any interest to learn anything about the culture or language prior to her visit - even though her grandchild is from there.
I would cut her slack if she and Brandan were really close and/or she had been a supportive mother to him. But literally all she brings to the table in his life is negativity. She failed him as a mom, and now she seems to want Mary to let him down as well.
Mary hates all females and is jealous of them.
As a kid with two absent parents, fuck his mom lmao. Fuck mary too. Its so sad. Would his mom even bother without cameras?
Mary is an immature jealous little girl who needs help. Jealous of Mom and his sister? Really!? WTF 😳 And his Mom acts like an entitled bitch who has many many problems as well. It’s a shitshow. Feel sorry for the new baby being born into this…
This is a pretty harsh take. She’s turned her life around and wants a relationship with her son. She’ll always be his mother. And as long as they continue to work on forgiveness, respect, and moving forward then I don’t see a problem with her wanting to be protective of her son
Nah mary is toxic as hell, she’s jealous of his mom and sister! ill never forget how she was online, nope. we will see how the rest of the visit goes tho.
1 thing and you cant deny is his mom said the exact same things we did here about those 2 toxic lazy humans making another human in their mess
Exactly Brandon’s mother isn’t exactly perfect but at the same time Mary is already proving herself as an abuser, first step is isolating Brandon from his family/support network and that jealousy towards female family members is just down right disrespectful!
This post is not about Mary. It is about a neglectful mom who picks and chooses when to intervene and “be there” for her son. At this point, she has no place helping decide what is best for her son.
This…seems very personal to you, as do most of your comments.
I was just thinking that. Seems a bit like projection…
Is this Mary? Of course it’s about Mary because she’s toxic and abusive af. Regardless what issues Brandon’s mom has she will always love her son. It’s a natural instinct to protect a son against such a manipulative person. She’s the worst that 90DF has ever had.
Couldn’t intervene before due to addiction.
Choosing to intervene now because she is clean and finally capable. Are you saying that she shouldn’t intervene now because she was a mess before? I, personally, think that would be continuing the neglect.
She was an awful mom but the fact that she’s trying to prevent Brandon from marrying another awful woman is a good thing regardless of her background. Brandon has proven himself to be beyond stupid to do it with an abusive girl who has been treating him like absolute crap and subsequently marry her. She so obviously doesn’t like him or care about him but he’s too damaged to see that. If Brandon’s mom’s actions lead to the breakup that the fandom has been hoping for, I’m all for it.
I don’t like any of them. They all suck, but his mom sucks less than they do now.
I disagree somewhat that she can’t start trying to mother him now. She will always be his mother and she’d be doing him a HUGE favor if she got him away from Mary.
This!!
Of course she can always start trying to be a mother to him. But from the sound of it, they only talk once a month. And her version of being a mother is shitting on everything he has established in his life without her guidance.
Really? I feel like I may have missed something. She’s negative about Mary, which she should be. I’ve read that she’s racist, which is always shitty. Is there more?
You don’t get a grown man away from the mother of his children. Then his kids get abandoned too. What an odd take
Splitting up from Mary is a different thing from abandoning his kid. Many people are divorced and coparent. It’s considered healthier than modeling a toxic relationship for the kid.
Brandan has lived most of his entire life without the care or help of his mother. He certainly does not need her to dive in and save him from his wife like Liam Neilson in Taken.
You are on point op. Mom was never there when he needed her. Now she’s shows up to guilt trip him and criticize his marriage…… thanks mom. The best thing she could do is just show up and be supportive. Two things Brandan likely never got from her.
I don’t blame her, honestly.
For disliking Mary? Yes, I agree.
But her attitude in general? Especially given her past?
She really does not seem like she wants her son to be happy. And she definitely loves negativity.
What attitude in general? She landed, was smiling and had to deal with Mary giving her the stone cold look. I’d be bitchy too if I flew all this way to come to a wedding when I know damn well Mary has an issue with every female that even remotely looks at Brandan.
Part of coming clean with addiction is going to those you have wronged and to try to make it right. Mary being a stone wall in front of Brandan would certainly prevent his mother from building a relationship. Brandan is whipped by Mary. It wasn’t just Brandan’s mother who isn’t able to look or speak to Brandan but also his sister. So what’s your excuse for her?
I think you’re projecting because you’re holding a lot of anger towards Brandan’s mom and well… honestly you don’t even know her.
And this is coming from someone who’s stepfather was a serious addict to drugs. So I have experience in dealing with an addict.
YES THIS!!! When watching the episode I noticed while she arrived she was smiling yet Mary’s face was like a childish scowl so immediately who’s the one causing drama from the get go….?
Mary is a narcissistic abuser and I hope people watching will realise this is not healthy.
Lol. How did you get to the conclusion that she doesn’t want Brandon to be happy? And if you think Brandon + Mary = Happiness then there are bigger issues here.
Mary is a disgusting mess. She just wants others to share in her miserable outlook. Misery loves company. She now will have it in the form of a child. Poor freaking kid. B.'s mother sees exactly what is going on. End of.
People are gonna brush away her neglect, criminal abandonment and former meth use that landed him in the foster care system and say she’s still his mom and should get him away from Mary. Yawn
Mary is also a delusional crazy person and is also toxic for Brandon but as the saying goes, we end up dating our parents…
She was a bad mom in the past because she had an addiction. If she is cleaned up now, it would follow that she’s in a better place to be supportive of her son. She is right about how toxic Mary is.
Maybe they haven’t shown it, but I don’t get supportive vibes from her at all. They talk once a month at most. And it seems like all she wants to talk about is how horrible Mary is, instead of getting to know and building a relationship with her son.
Yes she fucked up in her addiction but her points of disapproval are reasonable and logical.
Right, Mary is awful.
That said, when you’ve been an absent parent for your child’s whole life, I don’t think it is your place to step in once they’re 23 and criticize their choices to hell. At least get to know them and build a meaningful relationship with them first, which according to Brandan, they don’t have, (speaking on the phone maybe once per month).
Mother aside, it’s unfortunate he couldn’t even spend time with his sister because of Mary. This guy didn’t appear to have any friends or anyone beyond his god parents when he was in the states. He really should have made wildly different choices two years ago.
I’m with you on this one, OP. My mom was abusive (no addictions, just sadistic) and tries to comment on my parenting of my own children (we have an amazing relationship, my sons and I) and I’m like naaaaaah I don’t want advice from someone who hasn’t raised a child. I’m here in spite of my mom.
Brandon did it all on his own, or at least with no help from his bio mom. She can take several seats