• kreskin@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    It was already a hollow shell centered on little more than donor check harvesting anyway. It stopped caring about its constituents long ago.

    We dont need no water let the Centrist DNC burn. Burn motherfucker. Burn.

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      Baby, I’m an anarchist. And you’re a spineless liberal.

      We marched together for the 8-hour day and held hands on the streets of Seattle. But when it came time to throw bricks through that Starbucks window, you left me all alone! (All alone)

      You watched in awe at the red white and blue on the Fourth of July. While those fireworks were exploding, I was BURNING THAT FUCKER AND STRINGING MY BLACK FLAG HIGH

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        17 hours ago

        lefties take that word “liberal” as an insult. Was that your intent? If I was a liberal I wouldnt be advocating burning the DNC down, but maybe you dont use the same phrasing as I do. I used to call myself a liberal 20 years ago when it didnt mean DNC centrist. Now liberal = centrist and its usually used as an insult.

        Also, Anarchy is defined as an absence of government, is that truly your solution for the questions of government? Being blunt-- I dont see how you’ll get much done with anarchy besides having fun for yourself, and itll inevitably devolve to might-makes-right, which has inherently bad outcomes that are darn close to authoritarianism.

        Are you young? I remember being in my 20s and talking about anarchy, that was fun. But I also held a lot of petitions, cleaned a lot of piss off of… everything from shelters, worked with refugees, beat sick kids at Candy Land as a playroom coordinator in a hospital cancer ward, painted and constructed houses, held classes for kids around how to eat healthy, called for donations, knocked on doors for candidates, volunteered in a list of organizational celebrations and functions, and I’m still at it because I dont know what else I can do. My wife does nothing but community work that occasionally brings in grant funding.

        all of that would be a lot less possible under anarchy. So I dont see the end goal of what you are doing and how you are choosing to do it. If you think I am wrong on that I’d be curious to know why. Yes, it increasingly feels futile, hence my asking this question.

        Anarchy seems like a … dilettante’s solution to a set of real and pressing issues that probably cruelly add pain to a lot of good people who didn’t end up with as much luck in life as you and I enjoy. I’m not about to starve and I dont worry about money much.

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          17 hours ago

          Well apparently you’ve never listened to Against Me! back in the day and in your early 20s having fun talking about anarchy you never read anything on the theory behind it.

          You really should.

          Because all of the things you described you and your wife doing are the cornerstones of anarchism. Literally the most basic building block. So you are seriously uninformed and you don’t realize how much you actually agree with anarchism.

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            17 hours ago

            “You should read up on my point of view” is not the compelling elevator pitch I was hoping for.

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              17 hours ago

              lol sorry for suggesting you read something that could benefit you and your community. But if you want an elevator pitch, sure:

              Anarchism is all about mutual aid. The system (yes, it’s a system. It’s not “anarchy is chaos” like you seem to be implying—and like the centuries-long conditioning has made people believe) runs on community, and rejects not order, but hierarchy. You are living proof that anarchism is possible and works. You aren’t waiting for a system to tell you that you need to donate to feed the poor, you’re feeding the hungry yourself. Food Not Bombs is anarchism.

              In short, anarchy isn’t the absence of order, it’s the absence of hierarchy. It’s the existence of mutual aid, and relying on community to exist and thrive. Capitalism runs on hierarchy and insists that’s natural. Nature runs on need. Just like we could.

              Read Anarchism and other essays by Emma Goldman, it’s a good introduction.