This is the moment a quick-thinking female Russian tourist took down a phone-snatcher in Argentina. Video posted by journalist Gonzalo Benitez shows the incident on November 9 when two thieves snuck up on the 33-year-old woman while she was on a bike waiting at a junction in the capital Buenos Aires. As they grab her device, she manages to wrestle one of them off the bike and hold him until Good Samaritans rush to her aid and help restrain him until the police arrive. Officers were also able to trace the offender who fled on the bike and discovered 10 cell phones at the property where he was arrested.
this is what actual anarchy looks like
Everyday people coming to the aide of a fellow human who is fighting to stop herself being victimized is anarchy? Yeah, pretty much. Doesn’t seem like a bad thing, though. If we all took that level of responsibility, you wouldn’t need much of a governmental force.
I think everything you just said with many words, is what he said with few words. You’re both in agreement.
Possibly.
not possibly, entirely
Good. I couldn’t be sure. ‘This is actual anarchy’ is just as readable as ‘this is the degeneracy of our modern culture’ as it is as ‘this is people acting responsibly without need of hierarchy.’
i suppose it’s an understandable knee jerk reaction to assume that.
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i wrote it because when i see riots there’s usually “it was anarchy on the streets!” somewhere….
but in this case there was a large number of people who saw someone needing help and decided to help, which is actually anarchy on the streets…
They’re both technically anarchic, (no hierarchy among rioters either) but things like this demonstrate the lack of hierarchy is clearly not the problem in either situation.
anarchy isn’t just the lack of hierarchy, it’s an organization of society without hierarchical government.
a riot is chaos, not anarchy.
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I read it as meaning the exact opposite (as in, the crime part is what anarchy looks like) so they might want to reconsider the wording.
Anarchy is nice
I wish cops were reliable
I wish they weren’t corrupt, rapists, murderers, and recently, kidnappers.
Recently?
Abolish police. Form well-regulated militias instead. Most of the “police” don’t even live in the neighborhoods they enforce the laws in.
Can you give me one example where this has EVER worked, on a scale larger than a couple thousand people.
not gonna happen
Nah, anarchy probably wouldn’t have cops to come pick him up at the end. They’d just beat him some more until they felt justified enough cause what else ya gonna do?
Anarchy would shun them from social systems until they made appropriate reperations. They might be jailed, they might be exiled, they might just be cut off from all but basic food/services/etc.
There are law enforcement answers in anarchist societies that aren’t “have cops.”
Please elaborate on how you would deal with professional violent criminals in an anarchist manner.
Sure. You try to head off the behavior before it gets there by ensuring basic needs are met for all and through social tools like shunning and group dynamics.
Your scenario springs up whole clothe without the above, so I would offer the following for it : Jail, exile, death. The order depends on the people involved in the society they created.
Being an anarchist doesn’t mean you lack the current tools we use, it means you dont have to use them, or at least you dont have to reach for them first.
You didn’t answer who exactly would jail a guy with a gun who’s willing to use it and knows how to do it.
Id be glad to. Just tell me the name of everyone in the society, their general roles in different social situations, their agreed on laws and rules, and their specific stance on violence and how they want to respond to it.
Once you do, I can answer your very specific questions about a hypothetical community that doesnt currently exist and hasent been defined by any of the people in it.
So you don’t have law enforcement answers in anarchist societies that aren’t ‘have cops’. Dunno why you had to lie about it.
Its your hypothectical man. I’ve told you the community will need to come to a consensus on how they handle violence. Thats the only answer I can give if you wont give me the details above.