• GBU_28@lemm.ee
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    Lol yeah they’re thinking about the coming winter, or the reality that they aren’t even allowed to leave their country (for all but the most privileged) unfortunately

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      they aren’t even allowed to leave their country

      This is true, do you know who keeps them inside though? The United Nations’ Security Council.

      Security Council Tightens Sanctions on Democratic People’s Republic of Korea, Unanimously Adopting Resolution 2397 (2017)

      […] the Security Council today further tightened sanctions on the country, severely restricting fuel imports and other trade, as well as the ability of its citizens to work abroad.

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        So when they cross the dmz are they loaded in a catapult and sent back?

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          Hilarious joke, almost as funny as supporting sanctions that kill people because the sanctioned country has a scary ideology you know nothing about.

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            Uh huh. Keep defending them, very impressive. I wonder how the government of nk earned those sanctions?

            Indeed their people suffer in more.ways than one.

            I’m sure folks worried about food are the ones not finding work abroad 🙄

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              I wonder how the government of nk earned those sanctions?

              “We do horrible things to them, but we’re the good guys so they must deserve it”

            • Quick, tell me about the taean work system, which is used in all medium and large workplaces, without googling it. Since you’re so informed about the dprk

              (The point of this is to make you reconsider how much you actually know about the country that isnt just straight up propaganda)

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                I’ll meet you: without googling I believe that is a work transfer system with China. I think it’s rail based, and I think they stay for some time.

                But they aren’t free to go where they please, or leave the region entirely without ramifications.

                Edit cause I was honest: I was wrong.

                But are you purporting this agricultural system as effective?

                Further I assume you bring that no fact up as argument that collectivist style policy is effective and happening, I would argue it is ineffective and still only a farce under authoritarianism. Else why would nk receive aid, and experience famine?

                Lastly, I don’t need to know the economic history of the country to know where they are now. It’s not propaganda that got me here, it’s their own words and reports.

                • But are you purporting this agricultural system as effective?

                  It isnt their agricultural system, I would suggest you reread the whole thing because you’ve missed the most important aspect of what taean means. It means a collaboration between organized local labor and wider democracy, overseen by special interests such as the woman’s league.

                  Further I assume you bring that no fact up as argument that collectivist style policy is effective and happening, I would argue it is ineffective and still only a farce under authoritarianism. Else why would nk receive aid, and experience famine?

                  Why would you argue it is ineffective? Studies show the cooperatives work better than privately owned businesses. Also you haven’t established that the dprk is “authoritarian” any more than any other state.

                  They experienced famine after the collapse of the USSR, theyre doing fine on food now.

                  Lastly, I don’t need to know the economic history of the country to know where they are now. It’s not propaganda that got me here, it’s their own words and reports.

                  Well, you should. They tried to liberate the south when the US and US puppet dictator were killing tens of thousands of protestors. 20 percent of them died and all their infrastructure was bombed. After the war they did better under a socialist economy than the South until the US massively subsidized the South and the USSR collapsed, cutting off trade because of sanctions from the people who committed genocide on them (the US)

                  I would like to know what “own words and reports” you’re referring to.

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                  It’s not propaganda that got me here, it’s their own words and reports.

                  This is an unusual claim, as most people do not let the DPRK speak for itself, even to then refute it. All you see is third hand horseshit along with defector “testimony”.

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                Cuba and north Korea are not the same country fyi

                America bad, if it helps you clock out

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                  They are not the same, but it is America sanctioning both of them, and despite your worthless disavowed, your claim still rests on the tacit assumption that it is fairly arbitrating which civilian population deserves to suffer for decades.

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              I wonder how the government of nk earned those sanctions?

              Acquiring nuclear warheads and weapons that can be used with said warheads, the same thing Israel did and wasn’t punished for, I wonder why that is…

              (hint: one of these states is an American puppet!)