• SRFoxtrot341_V2@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    RX 580 and GTX 1060 has been around for a very long time, to the point I think right now is a very good time for an upgrade.

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    1 year ago

    One of my biggest annoyances is AMD removes features and functionality over time.

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    1 year ago

    The Amernime Zone repacked driver provides many newer features for older AMD cards, may be worth looking into… Currently using it on my 6700xt for less bugs even though my card will be supported for a while

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    1 year ago

    I do wonder what the impact will be on all the Vega integrated graphics. Lots of laptop cpus depend on that.

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    1 year ago

    Sorta BS that my Radeon VII card is losing support when it came out the same year as those cards and outperformed them 🙃

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    1 year ago

    This also means APUs using vega are included right? Been thinking of buying a laptop with 7730u but this might be the reason why i might change my mind

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        As much as I would like to try that on my RX 580, the installation is just such a trainwreck hassle for not experienced users like me.

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          I’m not even on a Radeon GPU anymore but last time I installed these drivers the setup had been greatly streamlined, it wasn’t more complicated than installing official drivers.

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      Let’s be honest here. Usually these patches are driver optimizations for new games. What kind of a new game runs on a Vega architecture IGP with 6 to 8 CUs, and 1/2 the performance of an RX 6400. Anything that’s last generation has probably already been updated to run well.

      Even if you’re looking at like e-sport titles, I’d be shocked to see driver’s having improved things by more than 1% in the last year in like Fortnite or League of Legends.

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        1 year ago

        My HD6950 before can run The Division before but due to AMD, pushing it out of driver updates, game gets all glitchy with artifacts.

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      1 year ago

      They will still make regular updates for bugs/security. There are millions of these units in production and AMD is not dropping support for them.

      These older architectures are just not a focus for new features and the drivers are being split out into a sperate package.

      They said :

      The AMD Polaris and Vega graphics architectures are mature, stable and performant and don’t benefit as much from regular software tuning. Going forward, AMD is providing critical updates for Polaris- and Vega-based products via a separate driver package, including important security and functionality updates as available. The committed support is greater than for products AMD categorizes as legacy, and gamers can still enjoy their favorite games on Polaris and Vega-based products.

      If a laptop with a 7730u meets your needs today it likely will continue doing so for some time. That said, obviously older architectures are closer to EOL than newer ones so that comes with pros and cons. Cheaper but official support will drop off sooner.

      Not sure how an APU with a 680M or 780M stacks up in price.

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      1 year ago

      Should have bought the 5500H that was launched in June that is already obsolete in drivers with this latest news.

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    1 year ago

    Its better to put the driver devs on new products instead. Its been 6+ years since polaris. You really got your moneys worth at $250 RX480 and RX470.

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      It’s been 6+ years since Pascal too but those will be supported for years to come.

      Which leaves the inferior 1060 in a better position compared to the RX480 going forward… not a good look for AMD

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        1 year ago

        They are also a much bigger company with a bigger headcount. AMD doesnt have the budget to do what nvidia is doing. Nvidia is projecting to make more money next quarter than AMD will all of last year. If you only have a few people its in your best interest to look ahead not behind otherwise you will keep falling behind.

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    1 year ago

    Why does AMD always cut support so early? My 1060ti on my laptop still gets monthly drivers.

    The RX 570 - 590 are not bad cards, they can still run most games on medium/high at 60fps, just no ray tracing. I played Doom Eternal on an RX 590 about 6 months ago and it was getting over 100fps.

    I find it wasteful to cut support for cards like these so soon, a lot of people can still use them.

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      1 year ago

      Do you think they’ll suddenly not be able to play games? I didn’t update the drivers on my RX 570 for 4 months once and nothing happened.

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    1 year ago

    If this means more effort goes into closing the feature gap vs nvidia, then I think this is an excellent move.

    If this means just more profit, and they will still half ass upscaling, then we have a problem.

      • SRFoxtrot341_V2@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        RX 580 and GTX 1060 has been around for a very long time, to the point I think right now is a very good time for an upgrade.

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          Meanwhile the GTX 1060 has gotten driver updates and is still supported for the latest games, regardless of only having 6 GB VRAM.

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            Yes, but it’s still a really old card, i replaced my 1060 6gb by a 6700 10go because it was not sufficient enough for gaming, not enough power, not enough memory and even if FSR was a godsend, i was playing at 1080p medium at max.

            Also, it was supported but games and drivers were not optimized for it and the new features were not compatible with it (but AMD features are working on my old nvidia cards!), so…

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      While I’m pretty sure AMD has issues with software development resource shortage, I’m still not sure this is a good idea at this point. They should have only dropped Polaris to 2nd tier support at this point, and maybe Vega next year or so.

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      1 year ago

      Fine wine: aka release a product with dogshit drivers and make them a little better over time.

      • rW0HgFyxoJhYka@alien.topB
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        Yeah I don’t understand the fine wine stuff. Its copium.

        Ask: Would you rather get a product that is great on launch or want to wait 6months or even 2 years to get that great product drivers when the product itself is now beginning to age as a new generation arrives. And after you’ve probably played the game.

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          The RX480 was fine on launch and became a lot better with time, my 1060 6go not so much, the best upgrade i got was AMD FSR working on it. That’s what i call fine wine as an ex-nivida owner (who will replace is new 6700 10go by any good cards sub 300€ from any vendors in a few years).

          edit : the 1060 6go still was a good buy and i was happy with it for it’s price, but for cheaper i could have had a RX480 at that time.

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            You can also enable SAM/Resizable BAR on Polaris 8GB GPUs with a registry edit it increases fps in alot of recent DX12 games

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          yeah lol. this also happens in the cpu side where people brag about upgrading their 2700X cpu to 5800x3d when 9900k users are stuck on their motherboards. meanwhile i’ve been enjoying the 9900k a lot more for a lot longer than they’ve upgraded haha

    • ElAutistico@alien.topB
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      fine wine never was a thing. The drivers are just always trash at launch and get better in the following years.

    • Flow-S@alien.topB
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      Modded drivers are available on Widows, and they already back ported a bunch of features that AMD didn’t.

    • JustMrNic3@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      So happy I don’t use Windows and I fully embraced Linux!

      My RX 560 and 570 GPUs are very happy with it!

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      Stupid question: does AMD contribute to RADV and mesa? As in, are they the main contributors to the amd drivers in Linux? I assume that they are at least significant contributors? For situations like this where support is dropped by AMD, does that mean that they will still patch card specific issues, or do other contributors take care of that?

      (I know the drivers aren’t necessarily card specific overall, but what happens if a specific unsupported card has an issue with a new driver?)

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        Last LTS kernel to have support for it (6.1) will be maintained until December 2026 or August 2033.

        Wonder if you could even have a GPU in continuous operation for 34 years without replacing capacitors or something else.