Is anyone else just genuinely surprised by how bad of a head coach McDaniels was and how much he didn’t learn from his time in Denver? It’s erie how similar his behavior was in Denver and Vegas. Alienating the starting QB (Cutler & Carr), trading popular players (Marshall & Waller), over working the team with long meetings and practices, completely unable to connect with his players, stunning level of arrogance sticking to his ‘system’ instead of doing what his players do best. Reaching in the draft (Tebow & Wilson).

It was a long time between head coaching gigs, but he seemed to learn nothing , didn’t change a thing. You’d think given how his first job went he would naturally grow, reflect and figure out what he had to do differently if given another opportunity. He came back a decade later the exact same dude, I find it shocking.

Even now I’d bet in his mind this was the players or the organization’s failings not his. I’m just shocked by his refusal to grow, change and adapt.

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    11 months ago

    My biggest gripe with McDaniels shitting the bed like this is it just proves once again that Brady is the GOAT. I fucking hate having to say that but dumbass just proved that he wasn’t a system QB, he was the system

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    11 months ago

    Considering he worked in Denver 10+ years ago and said he had learned so much from his first go around, I was hopeful that he would be able to make it work for his 2nd (and last chance).

    The fact he did the same exact thing just goes to show that ego got the best of him.

    Side note: Did feel for Ziegler a bit, but the more that has come out just shows he was basically McDaniels version of Mayock.

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    11 months ago

    What’s crazy is that he was saying all the right things at first. He said I had to take a step back and look and how I handle relationships and the personal side of things. Like he knew or at least someone told him those were huge issues, and this grown, professional, adult person went back and did the same shit. Mind boggling man

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    11 months ago

    Most didn’t view Wilson as a reach TBH. Not a finished product, but not a reach. A lot of people had him mocked as the first DE off the board as the draft neared.

    I agree with everything else, 100%.

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    11 months ago

    He’s literally one of the worst to ever do it. There have been very few coaches worse than McDaniels in the history of the NFL. His name will forever be tainted, and I love to see it. Little shit-eating arrogant prick deserves every bit of infamy he’s accumulated.

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    11 months ago

    As someone relatively new to the game, I’m just surprised a change in coach can have that much impact in such a short time

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    11 months ago

    I don’t think we give enough credit to Mcdaniels and Ziegler’s agent. He really fleeced Mark. Talked a big game and got guaranteed cash out of him. Sold them as a package deal and dispelled any concerns about being a shitty head coach in Denver. Now they’re all chillin at home and he’s like, “I told you we’d be fine.”

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    11 months ago

    Listen, if you can’t get along with Hunter Renfow, your a fkn asshole and definetly not a leader of men. Still, I was surprised how much of an egomaniac prick he was. He really shit on DC, then tried to get him back when TB retired, then made AOC wear his number. He also leaked Walkers wedding and traded him on his honeymoon. Nice gift for the newlyweds who just got separated by the country. Please door, hit him on the way out. Later Barney Rubble looking mf. We gots a real one now.

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    11 months ago

    I am not surprised. I wasn’t thrilled with the hire, but was willing to give him a shot. He was every bit as bad as was worried he would be. He was lucky he lasted as long as he did.

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    11 months ago

    It’s mind boggling that he came into the season admittedly knowing what not to do then went right ahead and did exactly that. It’s almost as if he was trying to fail on purpose.

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    11 months ago

    you know… if it sounds like shit, looks like shit, and coaches like shit, its mcdumbass… you know

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    11 months ago

    The “patriot way” worked because they had Tom Brady plain and simple. Look at Belichek and McDaniels struggle without him.

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    11 months ago

    When they first hired him I tried to force myself into thinking enough time had passed and people change and learn from their past mistakes. That lasted 3 games last season. I knew he was the same coach that he was in Denver when we started 0-3. I wanted him out since then.

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    11 months ago

    No he definitely learned from his time with the Broncos and you can see the progress that he’s made since then

    He was able to gut the team and alienate his players much faster with us than he could with Denver