The Core i9-13900KS gets a refresh too!
  • AbheekG@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Goodness. Soo get this: good 13900K CPUs get up binned to 13900KS CPUs, the best of which have recently turned into 14900K CPUs, making the latest flagship an up-bin of an up-bin. And all you’re paying for with each up-bin is 100-200MHz at similar voltages, no guarantee of IMC which is still all over the place and for all you know, an i5 may run DDR5 better than your up-binned up-bin. And now you’re telling me there’s even more up-binning to the 14900KS?? Making this, what? An up-bin, of an up-bin, of an up-bin, of an up-bin?? Amazing!!

    • sylfy@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      And then now they’ll claim “and we kept the same socket for the 13th and 14th gen” when it’s really the same generation.

    • JudgeCheezels@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Yes Gelsinger personally went to the process lab and licked these 14900ks before telling them to pack it up.

      It’s got the best up-bin.

    • nhc150@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      You’re not wrong, but there is a significant price consideration. The 14900K is binned about the same as the 13900KS (6 GHz VID < 1.5v), but costs at least $100 less. Some people claim the IMC is better on the 13900KS, but don’t think that can be answered at the moment.

  • jpsklr@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Impressive, very based.

    Let’s check the power consumption and temperatures. 🗿

    • siuol11@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Multi-chip on the same substrate has been way more complicated than anyone expected, right now it’s only viable for very high margin projects.

  • no_salty_no_jealousy@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    What’s up with comments on recent post? So many trolls coming from other sub which is not member of this sub. I feel like they are still salty about jayz posts about switching to Intel. Very typical reddit stupid circlejerk.

      • topdangle@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        interesting that intel posters are likely to post in hardware subs in general including AMD, whereas both AMD and Nvidia users are significantly more likely to post here compared to other hardware subs.

        don’t really understand their fascination with spamming this sub in particular. I suppose this explains how this sub went from barely any posts weekly to pretty consistent posts daily and similar ragebait as the AMD and Nvidia subs.

  • Niccolado@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    I wonder if we will see one day such CPUs for those with lot of money only. I am not thinking of the price for the CPU but the price for the required watercooling system you need with watertanks and cabling. I own a i9-12900ks and use a corsair icue h170i elite lcd 420mm but I feel even that one might have trouble removing the heat from it at peak…

    • RogueIsCrap@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Those top end Intel CPUs are already kinda made for high end water cooling systems. You can’t really make the most of them without being able to keep them cool enough to not throttle. No AIO is good enough if you really want to push the 14900 to its limits.

    • RogueIsCrap@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      At stock, 7800X3D and 13900/14900 are very close except for some games where 3D cache gives a huge advantage. But the Intel systems have more untapped potential for expert users.

      I just got a 7950X3D. Been very satisfied with it so far but it’s not very overclockable even tho temps are well controlled in my system. On an Intel system, performance could be much better than stock as long as the heat is under control. Memory also isn’t very tweakable on AM5 so far. Most AM5 systems are gonna be around 6000 for memory.

    • kaanaslan@alien.topBEnglish
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      10 months ago

      Hello mate, what settings did you have to change in your bios? I bought the same CPU. I’m waiting to buy the motherboard. It’s not in stock yet. (Asus Maximus z790 Dark Hero) And the only thing I know is we should increase the volt and try to increase the frequencies. But I’m also reading that instead of increasing the voltage, we should actually decrease it (undervolting) and I don’t understand how we can then overclock the CPU by undervolting and having a stable system.

      • sticknotstick@alien.topBEnglish
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        10 months ago

        This excerpt from Intel’s website may help you:

        Voltage Regulator Thermal Design Current Limit (VR-TDC)

        VR-TDC is a power management feature supported by Intel power management architecture. The feature introduces a current limit, naturally specified in amperes, that is to be maintained to preserve the electrical constraints on properties of the voltage regulator (VR). Generally, the control algorithm monitors the Exponential Moving Average (EMA) current, which is also measured in amperes, by reading current measurements from the VR. As with other control algorithms, this algorithm controls the power budget based on a given time window. If the limit is hit, the processor will reduce the CPU frequency (frequency throttling) to ensure the current remains below this limit.

  • Demistr@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Blablabla. Usually more than one a year, we have the fastest CPU come out. How much faster is this going to be? 3 %?

  • Bawbag79@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Should have done as Haswell and it would probably have been accepted more for what it actually is…4770K > 4790K etc 13700K = 13750K etc? Small bump in frequency.

  • soliozuz@alien.topBEnglish
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    10 months ago

    Honestly nailed 6.1 on 4 cores with 13900ks don’t think I’ll need another replica of cpu