Most people turned to congratulate Chelsea for the fascinating game, but indeed Manchester City has a few advantages over key decisions. The most apparent controversies were the soft penalty awarded again, and no foul for the handball. Sadly if the standard of refereeing is normal, Chelsea should deserve a win.

  • Federal_Natural_2755@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Pep’s tactics are clear when City cannot score. Just keep falling to get a foul or a penalty and the goal will come. That’s why Grealish who is a master of this is one his favorite players. It will happen again against Liverpool, there is no doubt about it. City have destroyed the PL unfortunately and now Newcastle follows by offering the refs huge paychecks to officiate in Saudi’s league. Football has lost its magic because of the oil money.

    • Cowboy_on_fire@alien.topB
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      To be fair we are not known for our diving, we are known for drawing fouls. There is a difference.

      Plus if any team attacks as much as city and has as many touches in the box as city, they will get more penalties.

      We often lead the league in touches in the opponents box, so that easily translates to leading the league in penalties won.

      Even as a city fan I though the pen was soft, but not a clearly wrong and “corrupt” decision. Soft pens happen all the time.

    • apotatochucker@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      If you genuinely think the penalty at the end wasn’t a penalty then please stop watching football and remove yourself from this sub

        • apotatochucker@alien.topB
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          Doesn’t mean that Dias is justified in thinking the ref decision in him was poor. He clattered the guy in the penalty area without getting the ball. As stone wall as it gets and the original reply was wrong to imply that the ref was unfair to city

  • No_Box5338@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Short of sheikh mansour actually reffing a couple of matches in person, it’s tough to see how the refs could make it easier for city…

    • Kotakdevam@alien.topB
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      Well here’s the thing , other fans cannot digest the fact that one team is dominating the league whilst their team can just sit and watch . United fans are unable to digest the fact that their own neighbours who were once dominated by them are now dominating them . The other teams are just whining bcs they can’t beat us .

      Call us scamsters , frauds , oil money or whatever the fck ull want to , but we’re one team to beat in this league

    • Iswaterreallywet@alien.topB
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      Gallagher was somehow not booked the entire game and Cucurella should have seen a second card for simulation.

      The ref was right in front of Cucurella. If your agenda was true, he would have been sent off.

    • Jealous_Foot8613@alien.topB
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      We’re city late on payments last year when they had that ridiculous goal given against them at old Trafford?

      Or when foden had a gol ruled out at anfield for a foul by haaland in buildup ?

      • Shigney@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Didn’t you get the memo?

        Giving credit to City doesn’t exist in football subs lol

        • No_Box5338@alien.topB
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          City are an excellent team, possibly best in world. Pep is a generational talent as a manger.

          Does it change the fact that they are facing over 100 counts of financial impropriety? Does it look extremely dodgy that referees manage matches on the side at the expense of city’s owners?

          LOL.

  • Slobhunter@alien.topB
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    The handball was a case of the ref/linesman not seeing it and because it was outside of the box VAR couldn’t do anything so I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt even if I think it was pretty incompetent of them not it be watching properly. The first pen was a pile of bullshit though.

    • burneracc101fake@alien.topB
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      That’s not an excuse. I bet you if it was the opposite then Rodri would be crying to the ref and he would bend the rules and give a free kick

    • Chapea12@alien.topB
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      I could see the ref missing it, but the linesman is on that side of the pitch. How could he miss it

      • 1bingchilling@alien.topB
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        People complain about this then also complain about VAR being a thing. Either you like “human error” or you don’t.

      • Retinion@alien.topB
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        but the linesman is on that side of the pitch

        Linesman missed a blatant corner for Arsenal the other day when it clear was you like rebounded off an opponent not 2ft away from him.

        It’s like how much clearer does something need to be

        • Damian_F06@alien.topB
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          Refs have line technology so if the ball had completely crossed the line, which it didnt, they would have called it.

          • Lord_Vxder@alien.topB
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            It went out of play and they called a goal kick. It for sure went out of play. They just gave the wrong decision even though it happened right in front of the linesman.

      • BogosiGaborone@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Wtf, it was outside the box and Walker wasn’t even looking nor could anticipate the ball. The Chelsea penalty however was nonsense. Dias got the ball and he dived

      • DragomirSlevak@alien.topB
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        If you blink, you miss it. These things happen. People forget what it was like in the past. The most incredible infractions would happen all the time. It’s unfortunately normal.

    • The_prawn_king@alien.topB
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      Handball is such a weird one because it would’ve been a dangerous place to have a free kick, not sure why they don’t look at those ones when it’s so clear

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          Free kicks taken as shots have a 6% goal rate overall. So that’s 1 in 17.

          Being charitable probably between 1-2 in 10 from there I’d guess.

    • Critical-Usual@alien.topB
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      A pile of bullshit because it’s popular to root against City? Because if it was given to say Luton vs Chelsea I’m sure everyone would say it was the right decision

      • Slobhunter@alien.topB
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        Bullshit because Haaland realises that he wasn’t going to get to the ball so flopped to the ground in a completely unnatural way to buy a penalty, and I’d say the same if another team got a penalty in the same situation, but as we’ve seen this season City are the team that get the soft penalties and not the other way around

      • Podberezkin09@alien.topB
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        Eh there’s way too much uncertainty around where the ball would have gone if Walker didn’t block it, if there was only Chelsea players around and Edersons pass was obviously going to fall to us it should be a red since no goalkeeper in goal = goalscoring chance if that fall to us, but it’s too unclear where the ball was going to go to say Walker prevented a goalscoring opportunity. Looked like Ederson was trying to pass to a defender on the touchline and that’s where the pass was headed

        • charlos74@alien.topB
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          There’s no reason for Walker to handball it deliberately, nothing to be gained from intercepting his own keepers clearance.

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          It was a clearance. It was headed 60 meters down the field. It certainly wasn’t going to create an immediate goal scoring opportunity.

          It wasn’t awarded a handball bc of the exemption for a ball kicked by a teammate. The end.

      • Slobhunter@alien.topB
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        As much as it pains me to defend Man City I can’t agree with that, it was blocking a clearance from his own keeper, if anything a handball in that situation is more likely to create a chance for the opposition than to block it which it may well have done if Sterling hadn’t stopped to appeal for the hand ball and had instead put pressure on Gvardiol who had the ball in a much more dangerous position than he would have been if the ball hadn’t been obstructed.

  • Tymkie@alien.topB
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    The penalty wasn’t soft though, it was idiotic. Idiotic from cucurella, absolutely braindead foul after losing position.

      • EasyDreda@alien.topB
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        But he is right. The ball was perfectly covered by Silva. And most probably Haaland would make a foul on his as he was not even close to that ball. Cucu just panicked and put his hands on him for no particular reason. But i do understand Cucu as well. It was a split second decision and it was the wrong one nevertheless.

  • Davismcgee@alien.topB
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    I dont see any issue with the refereeing in this match. It could be argued that the penalty was soft, but from the perspective of a Chelsea fan I genuinely think the VAR had a good process for that one.

    The on field decision was penalty, because that was genuinely what it looked like from a referees perspective. Haaland got ahead of Cucurella so Cucurella pulled him down.

    Looking at the replays, yes, they both had a hold of each other, but cucurella didn’t let go. From the angle that we had it looks like Cucurella panics after Haaland gets ahead of him and just doesn’t let go, and Haaland makes a meal out of the situation. In that position its either Cucurella gets flamed for losing his man (if Haaland gets to the ball and scores) or he manages to at least slow him down enough to allow Silva an easy clearance without Haaland trying to jump ahead.

    • herbie_dragons@alien.topB
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      It wasn’t a good process because they didn’t judge the whole thing. The replays they seemed to use only showed the end of the incident, when cucarella undoubtedly pulled Haaland down. They did not show the start - They both had hold of each other. Haaland then clearly pulls cucarella back so that he can get in front of him. Cucarella doesn’t let go and bundles him over. It’s six of one, Haaland foul of the other.

  • hauttdawg13@alien.topB
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    The penalty call was a joke, Haaland is in front of cucu because he yanked him out of the way.

    The handball is kind of a could care less. It’s accidental so no card, and outside the box so just a free kick (and that close to the box almost never results in a goal). Most people aren’t going to care about it as it very unlikely amounts to anything.

    • kernJ@alien.topB
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      Fucking exactly. Drove me crazy watching it live that the commentators completely ignored the fact that Haaland clearly yanks him off balance initially

  • seshtown@alien.topB
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    We’d never get that Haaland penalty awarded to us. Never, not in a million years.

  • Jealous_Foot8613@alien.topB
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    I think Chelsea played quite well but a lot of what they created was off city mistakes , Sterling goal off a terrible composure from gvardiol

    And the Jackson goal was awful goalkeeping from ederson.

    For me peps gotta take a lot of blame here , you need to shut up shop and control the game but city never did

    • Sa7acen@alien.topB
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      Is it that much of a reach to say that Chelsea just played really well and made City play the game they wanted them to? This rhetoric that City only lose because they don’t play their best is just lazy.

    • D-biggest-dick-here@alien.topB
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      I share this same sentiment about those two goals. Silva’s was a corner kick, and Ruben had a mistimed tackle due to the rain, I suppose. It’s not like Chelsea carved City open. City also had the better chances. Sanchez had better saves

      • Jealous_Foot8613@alien.topB
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        Yeh I think city created two great goals from open play

        • akanji header
        • haaland tap in

        And the. Had the fortune deflection for Rodri’s goal

    • immadawg9@alien.topB
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      Jackson’s goal was a result of the power behind connors shot. He had no time to react, he could only block it and hope his defenders go to the rebound first.

    • EasyDreda@alien.topB
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      For City to make mistakes Chelsea MUST play REALLY well… I just love this way of “seeing” the game. Same as Spurs just got “unlucky” to go down to 9 and not because they just simply couldn’t keep up after the first 15 minutes. Mate, we played so well yesterday that we forced City to start making mistakes and was much closer to winning the game that City was. That is all.

    • XOQXOQXOQ@alien.topB
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      Football is game of mistakes, city goals were eveb worse- bullshit pen, Silva mistake with akanji, penis goal by haaland and last goal was off silva

  • dispelthemyth@alien.topB
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    It wasn’t a soft pen, it was a foul by Haaland 1st

    People will say “oh the defender touched him 1st”, yes he touched him and that’s not a foul what he did but Haaland yanked him to gain position which was

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    Why the hell did VAR not show Haaland fouling Cucurella first? It’s so baffling what var choose to show and not show something that literally preceeded the penalty appeal

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      Haaland did not foul Cucurella first though?

      Cucurella grabbed Haalands arm and Haaland grabs his arm then let go a second later whilst Cucurella panicked because Haaland made a move and got infront of him so he pulled him down.