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Stop justifying arbitrary product segmentation. Maybe intel shouldnt release a useless refresh. Maybe intel should value the return business encouraged by good customer will.
I know I wont be a return customer if they behave like this.
It’s generally expected that hardware/software companies support their past devices as long as their is no hardware limitation preventing them from doing so. (Especially in first few years)
The 14th gen offers 0 hardware improvements that would prevent this update from running on the 13th gen.
Not a single transistor has been added for this feature. It’s all in software.
They don’t get the Nvidia excuse of having to add literal new cores or a redesigned pipeline for a feature like Dlss 3.
It’s generally expected that hardware/software companies support their past devices as long as their is no hardware limitation preventing them from doing so.
that was becuase a lot of motherboards shipped with only 16mb rom chips for the bios, and at the time that was not enough to enable support of all am4 processors. To counter this many vendors released upgraded versions of existing motherboards with 32mb of rom for the bios.
I believe amd was eventually able to work around this, but there was a technical hurdle in this case. People did need to rake them over the coals for it tho.
In all honesty, 13th gen users won’t be upgrading to 14th gen anyway unless they are at 13600K or lower.
This is also not a big feature and by the time it is rolled out into other games, 15th gen will be just around the corner and no one will be interested in buying 14th gen for APO.
Instead they should roll it out to all supported hardware and build back some of the trust they lost over the years. If anything, it will defer platform switches to AMD’s 8000 series (which has 1 additional year of support as opposed to 0 for Intel).
Why would anyone buy 13th gen either if 12th gen had APO? It’s often cheaper and the difference between a 12700K and 14700K was basically 7% on average in the CPU in general, not just gaming
Given the prices of 12th gen are typically lower, it would make more sense to spend less and get better price/performance
Just as Hardware Unboxed said. The only we could change this is to cause a “community uproar”. Boosting the OP’s post and top comment is a step in the right direction. Good luck fellow 12th and 13th gen buyers.
But in all cases I think APO won’t be used much in the near future. We’ll have newer much better CPUs anyway when this feature is mature and lots of games support it. I personally don’t care about going from 600+ to 700+ FPS on R6 and I can’t even remember what the other game is called.
12th & 13th Gens should get support for APO…
Why would anyone buy 14th gen if 13th gen has this feature ?
Stop justifying arbitrary product segmentation. Maybe intel shouldnt release a useless refresh. Maybe intel should value the return business encouraged by good customer will.
I know I wont be a return customer if they behave like this.
It’s generally expected that hardware/software companies support their past devices as long as their is no hardware limitation preventing them from doing so. (Especially in first few years)
The 14th gen offers 0 hardware improvements that would prevent this update from running on the 13th gen.
Not a single transistor has been added for this feature. It’s all in software.
They don’t get the Nvidia excuse of having to add literal new cores or a redesigned pipeline for a feature like Dlss 3.
It’s pure laziness and douchebaggery
Try explaining that to /r/amd
Didnt AMD reverse course on that and enable their old mobos to accept zen 3 though?
Like yeah it was a shitty block in the first place, but it was made good.
absolutely. there’s 5800x3d chips running on b320 b350 boards! w/o any issue or performance limits.
that was becuase a lot of motherboards shipped with only 16mb rom chips for the bios, and at the time that was not enough to enable support of all am4 processors. To counter this many vendors released upgraded versions of existing motherboards with 32mb of rom for the bios.
I believe amd was eventually able to work around this, but there was a technical hurdle in this case. People did need to rake them over the coals for it tho.
In all honesty, 13th gen users won’t be upgrading to 14th gen anyway unless they are at 13600K or lower.
This is also not a big feature and by the time it is rolled out into other games, 15th gen will be just around the corner and no one will be interested in buying 14th gen for APO.
Instead they should roll it out to all supported hardware and build back some of the trust they lost over the years. If anything, it will defer platform switches to AMD’s 8000 series (which has 1 additional year of support as opposed to 0 for Intel).
I have a 13600k and do not plan on going 14th gen, love my 13600k
Why would anyone buy 13th gen either if 12th gen had APO? It’s often cheaper and the difference between a 12700K and 14700K was basically 7% on average in the CPU in general, not just gaming
Given the prices of 12th gen are typically lower, it would make more sense to spend less and get better price/performance
The bold new graphics?
Why would anyone buy 15th, 16th, 17th… gen if this is the loyalty Intel shows to their customers?
Just as Hardware Unboxed said. The only we could change this is to cause a “community uproar”. Boosting the OP’s post and top comment is a step in the right direction. Good luck fellow 12th and 13th gen buyers.
But in all cases I think APO won’t be used much in the near future. We’ll have newer much better CPUs anyway when this feature is mature and lots of games support it. I personally don’t care about going from 600+ to 700+ FPS on R6 and I can’t even remember what the other game is called.