Okay, question. The rail companies are rolling in dough, obviously, and the strikers would be paid by the union during the strike, but what about those of us whose jobs depend on the delivery of products and materials by rail? Like I said, a strike would have shuttered our business and put a bunch of folks out of work. Big corporations can weather the strike, us small and medium businesses cannot. So, more power ends up in the hands of the owner class, and we all have slightly less to go around. How’s that the progressive dream? Nah, learn to see past your own nose. Things are never as simple as people present them on places like this. Nothing in life is black and white. 'Cept cows and dalmatians.
I work for a small business, last one in our industry in our area that isn’t a large conglomerate, which is good enough to be concerned for my livelihood. Who is gonna pay mine and my co-workers bills when we are all out of a job? Where’s our support? Where’s our salvation? I mean you guys are happy to say, “sucks you guys are losing your jobs, but now rail workers get paid vacation, soooo eat shit.” Not fair, dude.
It’s wild you would think that’s the intent. The whole point of a labor movement is to lift all boats.
Biden could have just as easily forced the contract the union members wanted instead he shut down their power to strike and gave them bread crumbs. Much of that was after the fallout of the East Palestine disaster, it was literally to save face. He didn’t give them “everything” they wanted, as you said in a previous comment. They got 4 days sick leave, it’s less than what I get from Seattle city law, fucking why? Businesses here can manage. Much of the reporting you see is doing its best to paint Biden in a good light. The democrats aren’t on the side of labor. Hell even the New Deal was a fucking compromise when socialist parties were at their strongest, in a successful attempt to knee cap them. What I see, is we can only win ground by organizing outside of the democrat party. You can’t tailcoat and expect change. You can’t just take their word that they are on our side. You have to keep pressure on them.
I don’t criticize Biden because I think you should suffer. I criticize him because you shouldn’t be pitted against your fellow workers fighting against unfettered greed.
No, it’s not the intent. It’s the fallout. Actions have consequences. Sure, in an ideal world they could strike and no one but the rich have to feel the burn, but life isn’t like that. Their strike has repercussions downstream, whether they like it or not. Does it lift all boats? Maybe, but why do we have to be sacrificed in the process? I’m pretty sure they would want us to give pause if the roles were reversed. And if you think the people affected are as civil and open minded as myself, wake up. They aren’t going to see it as the union standing up against the big corporations, they’ll see it as greedy unions holding our economy hostage so they can get a free vacation, and I don’t really see how that helps unions.
Are you open minded? I dunno man from everything you have written you’re happy to lick Biden’s boots for table scraps. Going so far as to reference dank Brandon memes as if he’s dabbing on us critical of his policy.
what about those of us whose jobs depend on the delivery of products and materials by rail?
Would have been much better off not just in the long run but more or less immediately. There’s thousands of minor derailments every year and every expert is saying that it’s only a matter of time before a major one happens again. All because the companies make it impossible for their workers to do the job properly with their short term profits obsessed thinking destroying the bodies and psyches of the people and causing faster deterioration of the materiel they’re unable to properly maintain.
a strike would have shuttered our business and put a bunch of people out of work
You’re doing the same thing the rail corporations do. The continuation of the awful conditions is going to cost hundreds if not thousands of lives and many times more jobs than a strike would.
more power ends up in the hands of the owner class, and we all have slightly less to go around
Is what happens by the letting them continuing to get away with their extremely abusive and irresponsible practices. Could you be any more myopic??
learn to see past your own nose
Take your own advice, you arrogant idiot.
Things are never as simple as people present them on places like this
Especially not when those people are as simple-minded and shortsighted as you.
Because I learn from labor movements of the past and how to apply what worked for them to our current situation.
Okay, and? Congrats on reading your history books.
Says the guy who didn’t learn from history what happens when workers lose their right to strike…
Okay, question. The rail companies are rolling in dough, obviously, and the strikers would be paid by the union during the strike, but what about those of us whose jobs depend on the delivery of products and materials by rail? Like I said, a strike would have shuttered our business and put a bunch of folks out of work. Big corporations can weather the strike, us small and medium businesses cannot. So, more power ends up in the hands of the owner class, and we all have slightly less to go around. How’s that the progressive dream? Nah, learn to see past your own nose. Things are never as simple as people present them on places like this. Nothing in life is black and white. 'Cept cows and dalmatians.
You a business owner?
I work for a small business, last one in our industry in our area that isn’t a large conglomerate, which is good enough to be concerned for my livelihood. Who is gonna pay mine and my co-workers bills when we are all out of a job? Where’s our support? Where’s our salvation? I mean you guys are happy to say, “sucks you guys are losing your jobs, but now rail workers get paid vacation, soooo eat shit.” Not fair, dude.
It’s wild you would think that’s the intent. The whole point of a labor movement is to lift all boats.
Biden could have just as easily forced the contract the union members wanted instead he shut down their power to strike and gave them bread crumbs. Much of that was after the fallout of the East Palestine disaster, it was literally to save face. He didn’t give them “everything” they wanted, as you said in a previous comment. They got 4 days sick leave, it’s less than what I get from Seattle city law, fucking why? Businesses here can manage. Much of the reporting you see is doing its best to paint Biden in a good light. The democrats aren’t on the side of labor. Hell even the New Deal was a fucking compromise when socialist parties were at their strongest, in a successful attempt to knee cap them. What I see, is we can only win ground by organizing outside of the democrat party. You can’t tailcoat and expect change. You can’t just take their word that they are on our side. You have to keep pressure on them.
I don’t criticize Biden because I think you should suffer. I criticize him because you shouldn’t be pitted against your fellow workers fighting against unfettered greed.
No, it’s not the intent. It’s the fallout. Actions have consequences. Sure, in an ideal world they could strike and no one but the rich have to feel the burn, but life isn’t like that. Their strike has repercussions downstream, whether they like it or not. Does it lift all boats? Maybe, but why do we have to be sacrificed in the process? I’m pretty sure they would want us to give pause if the roles were reversed. And if you think the people affected are as civil and open minded as myself, wake up. They aren’t going to see it as the union standing up against the big corporations, they’ll see it as greedy unions holding our economy hostage so they can get a free vacation, and I don’t really see how that helps unions.
Are you open minded? I dunno man from everything you have written you’re happy to lick Biden’s boots for table scraps. Going so far as to reference dank Brandon memes as if he’s dabbing on us critical of his policy.
Would have been much better off not just in the long run but more or less immediately. There’s thousands of minor derailments every year and every expert is saying that it’s only a matter of time before a major one happens again. All because the companies make it impossible for their workers to do the job properly with their short term profits obsessed thinking destroying the bodies and psyches of the people and causing faster deterioration of the materiel they’re unable to properly maintain.
You’re doing the same thing the rail corporations do. The continuation of the awful conditions is going to cost hundreds if not thousands of lives and many times more jobs than a strike would.
Is what happens by the letting them continuing to get away with their extremely abusive and irresponsible practices. Could you be any more myopic??
Take your own advice, you arrogant idiot.
Especially not when those people are as simple-minded and shortsighted as you.