This isn’t meant to be derogatory but honestly I’m baffled by the amount of people who are on the show who don’t seem to understand simple human reproduction. Like Micheal wanting kids with Angie … umm it’s never gonna happen … a lot of the women on the show are over 40 and maybe could get pregnant naturally but statistically improbable. Seems A lot of these guys have no idea how these things work

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    My partner is from the Dominican republic and we had this conversation not too long ago. He said that there is no sex Ed in schools there and that it’s seen as the parents responsibility to teach it. Which honestly is worrisome considering the teenage pregnancy rates. I pointed out how can parents teach it if they themselves don’t know it 🤷🏾‍♀️ which he completely agreed with.

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    Coming from eastern europe, my sex ed was basically about tampons and pads and how women choose men based on their shoes.

    That’s at least all I remember.

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    To be honest I went to public school in the US and I didn’t have sex education. I think it’s lacking in a lot of places and nonexistent in others.

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      I went to a religious school in Australia and sex ed was nothing more than don’t have sex. I didn’t know what ovulation was until my late 20s.

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    I think there’s a difference between “not educated” and “willfully blind”. You don’t have to be well educated to know that a woman in her late 50s or early 60s is unlikely to get pregnant. Even people with zero formal education at all would be aware enough to see that most women who have children have them before menopause and that it’s very rare to see a pregnant 60 year old walking around.

    But for the purposes of the show, the cast members choose not to think about that. Even if they are told on camera by a doctor that it’s unlikely, they just brush past that and continue talking about it like it’s a simple process. Even if the cast members did learn about sex and reproduction in school as kids, they would ignore or forget the information just like they ignore and forget information that they receive in the present day.

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      Rob in the current season, living in some dudes garage with an outhouse, driving a 20 y/o car that’s held together with duct tape and hope “we’ll just get a surrogate then”. Dude, in Canada it’s illegal to pay for a surrogate, and we have socialized health care. And it’s still usually $20-25k. In the states? A typical hospital birth is out of pocket $25k. Then you’ve gotta pay the surrogate. Then you have the expenses of a newborn.

      And yet he’s talking about “even Beyonce and Jay-Z got kids” like dude, they’re rich. And you are very much not rich at all.

      It’s amazing the things these people believe.

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    i went to public school in the US and definitely had sex education at various points. however, it only covers the bare minimum. periods, pubic hair, this is how to not get pregnant. i learned way more from my mom (GYN surgical nurse) and that book i had about your changing body.

    if you do watch “last resort” - yara kinda dives into the lack of sex education in ukraine. as in, she had zero sex education. i think in some of the more conservative countries, its not talked about often. then for poorer countries, its just completely non existent.

    but there is also a level of willful blindness. like angela is OLD AS FUCK. like how do you not comprehend that that broad is not gonna be baking a fresh cake with old eggs?

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    I have a Brazilian friend; her mom genuinely didn’t know how babies were made. She had no idea about birth control, or that having sex is what caused her to get pregnant. My friend here in the states lived in a rural area and her sex-ed teacher seriously pronounced vagina “vah-jeen-a”. Needless to say, she didn’t learn much. So I guess it depends on what country, state, province, city, or town you live in and at what time in history.

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    Sweden has some of the best sex education in the world. It starts at grade five where they talk about puberty, body development and even masturbation. As they get older other topics are discussed like sexual and reproductive health such as anatomy, sexual functions, sexual orientations, gender identity, STIs, HIV/AIDS, abortion and different types of contraceptives. Most high schools even offer free condoms at the nurses office and they give information about clinics that offer free condoms. Other type of contraceptives like the pill are also free. As a result of all this Sweden has a very low rate of teenage pregnancy compared to other countries.

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      For a period, i went to a school in a “higher class” region (of the US) – sex ed. was parallel to Sweden’s. Not much later, i moved to a region, that many would call “ghetto,” they barely taught about deodorant and i would see boys literally grabbing at girls crotches on a daily basis. No joke.

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    Um, does your country have sex education? You think that most women over 40 can’t get pregnant? LOL, get real.

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      Umm look it up … it’s 5 percent chance each cycle … not to mention that after 30 pregnancies are considered high risk …it’s definitely possible but less likely every year after 30 as the amount of eggs the woman has is finite…

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        LOL, yes, I’ve heard the term “geriatric pregnancy” too. Guess what – all of my friends with kids had them in their 30s and 40s. ALL OF THEM. Women are waiting until they’re older now. It’s hilarious that you think all pregnancies over 30 are high-risk. That’s just simply not true. Maybe they’re referred to as “high-risk pregnancies” but that’s old, outdated language.

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    lol says someone from the US 😅😂😅 where abstinence only is taught in some states only and the syphilis rate increases by 1000% since 2012

    My family hosted an US American Girl for a year - her lack of knowledge on everything considered sexual health was concerning, she lacked basic knowledge about bodily functions, STDs etc. she taught HIV is transmitted through kissing mainly

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      I totally agree that we aren’t one to talk about lack of sex education but that girl had to be extra stupid because we learn about STDs even without sex ed. HIV, maybe, depending on if her parents were still stuck in the 80s and early 90s. There was a point in time, not too long ago, where the general public worldwide was not sure how HIV spread beyond “bodily fluids”. There was an idea that only gay people got it and that saliva was one of the body fluids it came from meaning people thought kissing was a way you could get it. Things started to change when Ryan White was sick and passed and Magic Johnson was diagnosed because people bothered to learn exactly how it was transmitted.

      But that misconception on how it was transmitted was common across the world at the time. Straight people thought it was a “gay thing”and didn’t bother learning about it. There wasn’t all the awareness there is now. So maybe her parents instilled that in her.

      Our big issue with lack of sex education is that kids are not taught about birth control or how exactly you get pregnant beyond sex. Those areas have higher teen pregnancy and abortion rates; not higher STD rates.

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    I think the level of sex education depends more on the religious influences in the community. Community influences will set the bar for sex education in schools and home. Places with many Catholics, certain Christian groups, and Muslims may be lower in sex education and push more for abstinence. Keep in mind that some areas are heavily Influenced by missionaries like Samoa islands and different places in Africa. Places with less religion tend to teach more sex education.

    It amazes me how many people on this show don’t know how to correctly use birth control.

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    I taught Key Stage 2 (aged 7-11) in the UK for 25 years and had to teach sex education to the older 2 year groups. Of course I hated teaching it. It was always a little bit awkward and I just knew that the sharper kids connected the dots in their heads and realised that almost every adult, including their teachers, has had sex at some point.

    It was about puberty and body changes for the 9-10 year olds and sexual intercourse for the 10-11 year olds. Prior to the lessons, we held a meeting for parents, to prepare them for any questions that they may get as a consequence of the lessons.

    I did things, such as have an anonymous question box that I would answer at the end of the day. Although it was anonymous, I could still tell the kids’ handwriting on the question slips of paper, but I didn’t let on. It was pretty clear to see who had older siblings, as those were much more clued in. Some of the questions I didn’t answer. If it was prying or graphic, I wouldn’t answer and I would say, “I have one final question, but it’s best for the child to ask their parents about it.”

    I don’t miss it! (Teaching sex education, not the actual sex!)

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    In Latin countries they have a perception that the female body is something to hide. It’s strange when you go to the gym, women always use the bathroom cubicle to change. Very different from Northern Europe where they could care less about changing in front of other women.

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    You’re saying “other countries” like there aren’t a bunch of accidental pregnancies from Americans who trust in the pull out method

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    It’s odd that you’re criticizing other countries for inadequate sex education when most of the “Love in Paradise” cast is American women who thought they couldn’t get pregnant on an island or in international waters.

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      Good point… I feel like there is a thought like one cannot get pregnant with one time having sex or if he just pulls out etc too , it’s kinda crazy

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      Wait….what?! Please tell me you are joking. Can’t get pregnant on an island or international waters 😂😆

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        it’s just a reference to the fact that so many women on that show had sex with a bartender or resort staffer and seemed shocked that they ended up pregnant 😅

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    I don’t think it’s necessarily a geographical thing; I think it’s a gender thing. Case in point, I just had to tell my 40 year old boyfriend that no, women do not typically ovulate during their period. He thought the egg came out with the blood and that’s why he’s never seen it. I also had to tell him the egg is so small he likely wouldn’t be able to see it even if he was looking for it. He’s American with a high school and college degree.