• Itavan@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    A friend of mine is president of a friend of the libraries. She gets copies of the Library’s Board of Trustees meeting notes, which includes forms that people have filled out and shared it with me. There were many saying that the book “George” should be banned. Apparently it’s about a trans kid. It sure struck me as a targeted campaign. The hilarious thing is that many of the complaints pretty much said parents should decide what kids should read. So yeah, do your job as a fucking parent and read the stuff your kids read before they do, asshole. A couple said their kid checked the book out. Yeah, not likely. Too bad so many “christians” are such fucking liars.

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      1 year ago

      I’d shop at a thrift shop owned by a small church. They’d have a regular customer come in (male), he’d try on a bunch of women’s clothes and not put it away. It made the very conservative guy at the counter angry. Oddly only because he didn’t put the clothes away, seemed to be blocking out the women’s clothes part mentally. 😂. There were a few women who worked at the church, they ran a planned parenthood knockoff. Always had a few pregnant girls around. They’d talk about telling the girls whatever they wanted to hear to, “save the baby”. Completely wrong behavior in my opinion. Women should have access to accurate information. They could care less about that though. Lie through their teeth, and probably kick them to the curb once the baby was born. lol. I’d go inside there and take anything of value, for as cheap as possible.

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    1 year ago

    People get so upset about high schoolers reading stories that contain realistic high schoolers.

    Nothing happens in that book that these kids haven’t seen

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      1 year ago

      Most kids have seen porn by the age of 12, that doesn’t mean we just say screw it, here’s a full length film, go wild.

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      1 year ago

      Absolutely. That is one of the points that always drives me nuts. Like these parents don’t know their own children. They don’t want to know or see them in a realistic sense.

    • DeficiencyOfGravitas@alien.topB
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      Nothing happens in that book that these kids haven’t seen

      I never got a bunch of my friends together to jerk each other off into a cup in order to drink it.

      This is a graphic novel too. What’s the call on drawings of naked boys masturbating?

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        1 year ago

        It’s neither depicted nor presented, it’s something that happens off-camera and is only mentioned/described. And the hs baseball team my junior year got in trouble for doing essentially the same thing as a hazing ritual.

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    1 year ago

    We wouldn’t want teens in Georgia to read a realistic and empathetic portrayal of what it’s like to be a kid who is bullied for being gay, now would we?

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    I think this books banning issue is being approached by both sides with absolutely no nuance by either side. Conservatives say these books show things they don’t want their children reading. That’s reasonable. Liberals say that banning books is bad for society because it restricts a person from being exposed to different ideas and making up their own mind. That’s true imo. Can we not just have a “restricted” label slapped on certain controversial books that require parental consent for minors to check out?

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    1 year ago

    Honest question: did any of you ever use the school library in middle or high school? We never ever had time to do it even if we wanted to in my schools. Classes never went there, ever. Only in elementary school did we go to the school library for 20 min once every week or two.

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    1 year ago

    One of the annoying things about these discussion is the use of ‘children’ and ‘school’ as weasel-words. A 5 year old kindergartner is a child that goes to school, and so is a 17 year old senior. We don’t apply the same standards to both because that’s obviously silly.

    I haven’t read it so take my opinion or don’t, but it sounds like something I wouldn’t read to a 2nd grade class but I can see a teenager reading it and understanding the context.

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      I have read it. It’s a really well done, empathetic portrayal of a 14 year old the summer before high school who is struggling with his sexuality, being accepted by peers, and his identity. There is a suicide attempt but not graphically shown, and in that context, a fight with his inner self where he figures out some things that are transformative. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed reading it. There is one scene that involves a group of boys masturbating into a bottle that is not depicted. I’m sad that they removed the book because it addresses bullying in such a way that a reader really understands the impact and they empathize with the victim. I also think there are a lot of kids in that main character’s shoes, and this book with its lessons would be a good resource for them. It is a book for a high school library, and it has found its way into middle school libraries where it is not a great fit.

      Read it, you won’t be sorry you did.

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      They do the same thing when the talk about children shot with guns and those statistics. It makes you think little kids when in all actuality a large portion is gang violence from 16/17 year olds. It tugs on the heart strings.

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      1 year ago

      Some Florida teacher and Casserole Karen tried to start shit by tricking a 17 year old in taking a banned book from the library for example

    • Farwaters@alien.topB
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      It’s the same with “minors.” Sometimes, that’s a relevant term (“Minors cannot legally buy cigarettes in this country”) but sometimes it feels like it’s used to infantilize teens a bit. 0-17 is a huge age range, is all.