• mberrong@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    Wait, is Carragher now gonna get sanctioned by the League for speaking ill will and bringing the league’s decision making into disrepute?

    • ConrrHD@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      I’m pretty sure what Arteta got sanctioned for was something he signed off in his contract. Jamie works for sky not the premier league.

      So unless he’s ranting about his sky box going up by 15 quid a month he’s fine to say what he likes

      • tobi1k@alien.topB
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        Arteta works for Arsenal not the premier league. His employer literally publicly supported his statement.

        • gamecockStopring@alien.topB
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          Think his point is, how can they fine or do anything to carragher when he has no affiliation to the prem, much like if you or me said they are a joke.

        • Welshpoolfan@alien.topB
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          And Arsenal are a member of the Premier League, therefore can be sanctioned. Sky sports are not.

  • TheLimeyLemmon@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    Comments here are going to age like milk when City inevitably get off with a slap on the wrist and Everton were in fact over-punished in comparison.

    • circa285@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      Exactly. Unless City and Chelsea are relegated, all of these contrarian comments are going to age incredibly poorly.

    • PandiBong@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      That still doesn’t mean carragher isn’t a total hypocrite and hack who’s face looks like it’s aged like milk.

    • mohicansgonnagetya@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      So the Everton decision is only bad when compared to what will happen to City, which hasn’t happened yet?

      I do think the decision is okay, granted that the rules were broken. I only hope that they maintain this when judging City, Chelsea, and any other club in the future.

      These kinda decisions need to be made and backed. The sad part would be when certain clubs can get away with a slap on the wrist.

      • rowejl222@alien.topB
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        It’s only ok if City gets a big points reduction. Otherwise, this was bullshit

        • gamecockStopring@alien.topB
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          I mean chelsea admitted to a 100m whoopsie, shouldn’t they get a 50 point reduction? Not counting the fact the fa banned siggurdson (our record signing) then he was cleared of charges (so effectively costing us 50 mil for nothing), you think they’d let off 20 mil for a stadium

      • round_melon@alien.topB
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        I do feel for Everton considering what’s happened with City and Chelsea, but I just hope that this is a benchmark now and that Chelsea and City will HAVE to face consequences because of this punishment.

      • bigfootswillie@alien.topB
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        Honestly I think it’s still overly harsh considering the circumstances. It’d be one thing if they were just flaunting the rules.

        But they got fucked by Covid like everybody else but then right as they were recovering there lost all investment from Usmanov due to the Russia Ukraine conflict.

        Then they stayed on a strict spending plan in clear open communication with the league for the past 2 (3?) years where they were not allowed to buy players without selling to cover their cost in which time they made a net gain of 28M on transfers and stayed in the league.

        They were already under strict transfer restrictions and I could even understand further punishment to uphold the rules but this is unfair. The past few years have been a struggle but they’ve done everything they’re supposed to and, if they had survived this season, looked like they might finally be on track to being okay again because of it.

        But this is piss. Fucking arresting a homeless person for sleeping on the sidewalk type behaviour.

        Why would anybody ever agree to comply with this investigation again? Looking at how it’s turned out for everybody else, it seems like Everton should’ve pumped up an even bigger bubble and spent even more so they wouldn’t have been in enough danger to get reasonably sued by the relegated clubs in the first place.

        • mcmanus2099@alien.topB
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          Honestly I think it’s still overly harsh considering the circumstances. It’d be one thing if they were just flaunting the rules.

          But they were right, they were trying to declare overspend as COVID allowance. They fiddled the books to write it off and tried to hide the breach.

          But they got fucked by Covid like everybody else but then right as they were recovering there lost all investment from Usmanov due to the Russia Ukraine conflict.

          The Ukraine war isn’t a factor, they got fucked by COVID like everyone else but declared far higher COVID costs for no reason. They used COVID write offs to remove some of the bad debt from all those years of bad investments.

          They did breach FFP, this happens to championship clubs all the time, we can’t allow different rules because it’s the Premier League.

          And it won’t be a 10 point deduction, the sentence always gets halved on appeal, it will end up a 5 point deduction.

          • Chewitt321@alien.topB
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            Yup, as a Wolves fan who are having an ok but limited season due in part to a quietish summer window because of FFP allowances, Everton just avoiding that whole need to be careful cos they didn’t feel like it isn’t really on.

            • maxefc@alien.topB
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              10 months ago

              Look at the net spend for the last 5 years. We have spent no money on players compared to you lot

          • Kevgongiveit2ya@alien.topB
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            The USM naming rights to the training ground was worth 30m alone and was ended due to the Ukrainian war. That right there was enough to put us under the 105m limit.

    • Lozsta@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      I don’t know it that will be the case. Unless the super team of lawyers is rolled out again. But it seems that the entire footballing world wants city punished.

    • damwookie@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      Too little too late for the competing relegation teams for the previous two seasons.

  • Jackbees777@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    Imagine supporting one of those six clubs that basically planned to leave the league and cups without any punishment, see how they get special treatment and all success somewhat scripted, but give opinions on an actual football club getting punished

    • Old_Medicine2229@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      You know this is factually wrong right. The super league wasn’t a replacement to the prem rather the champions league. Whole thing was a disgrace but don’t spout nonsense

      • Jackbees777@alien.topB
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        10 months ago

        It was a replace for the champions league that would have voided the whole idea of the where you finish in the prem it’s not nonsense it’s facts

  • Yupadej@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    FFP is designed to do this, they spend less than the big 6 teams but get punished because their revenue is lower. No way for Everton to ever compete with Liverpool like City did with United.

    • lanos13@alien.topB
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      10 months ago

      The irony of a city fan complaining whilst u lot funnel in equity money through shell corps to disguise it as sponsorships. You competed through complete and utter financial manipulation and to put it frankly cheating, whilst Everton overspent on a stadium, and yet they are the ones who have been punished

  • PandiBong@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    And yet another piece of proof that Carragher is the worst pundit out there. He’s been on quite a roll these last few weeks. What a moron.

  • No-Clue1153@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    This is such a dangerous comment, attacking the PL’s impeccable financial investigators. Does Carragher not realise he is at risk of bringing the game into disrepute?!??!???