• TheRealGreenArrow@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Let’s pick the hypothetical scenario where City don’t get charged.

    What do you think fans do? Do you think they can do anything?

  • pclufc@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    No way that Dinamo Chelski get deducted points . The country is run for London and this won’t change anything

  • RICHAPX@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Whatever happens we need an answer soon now the Everton punishment is out. Every day that goes by now is filled with “why haven’t they done anything about city?” And because their is no answer, people can fill the gaps themselves. “The premier league is corrupt” “their owners have paid off the government”.

    If City are found not to have broken rules their presumption of innocence is long gone and that will be viewed as corrupt. In the mean time if Everton are relegated this season they would be fully justified to look at City and possibly Chelsea and ask where their punishment is. It’s all very murky and we can’t have the premier league try to get to May without doing something here while everyone cries “115 charges, no punishment” the whole time

    • Paolo1984@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      An important nuance to this is that the reason it’s taken so long is because City have been purposefully evasive. I’ve read that they’ve refused to hand over certain emails and documentation, which has made it harder for the Premier League to prove each charge. In the Everton case, Everton were open, honest and admitted the charges.

    • Edward_the_Sixth@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I mean, the writing is surely on the wall for City.

      The European ban for 2 years back in 2020 was only overturned on appeal at the CAS for being time barred.

      The PL has that exact same set of facts plus more without the time bar to save City this time

    • thegoat83@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Maybe they should release a statement explaining to people, as if they were 5 year olds, that being charged of something is not the same as being guilty of something.

      It’s remarkable the amount of fully grown adults who can’t grasp this quite simple thing.

      • gustycat@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        They probably should, but the statement itself would probably raise questions from a sub set of PL fans

  • ezee-now-blud@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    If there is some kind of punishment I wonder if Chelsea will get a more lenient sentence for self reporting and because the regime has changed.

    If they did know some kind of punishment was incoming, the focus on youth and long contracts may actually be a shrewd move.

    Not sure that spunking as much as they have done can ever be called shrewd but if they suspected a transfer ban or relegation the rapid spending doesn’t seem quite as batshit insane with that context

    • OkCurve436@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Reporting it might lessen some aspects but they are still benefitting now from investments made in players when they breached FFP. Just like City, you build a team with money you don’t have and then profit from sales to further reinvest. Chelsea made alot of money from youth products sold for good money.

      I would expect the same example as Everton, points deductions for each year they broke it. 6 points per breach. They might remove the points deductions for the amount of the breach or maybe not fining them.

      • ajaya399@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Youth products are irrelevant to the financial irregularities being investigated though.

        Iirc, a lot of it is under the table payments to agents for established players, like Eden, to ensure the deal gets past the finish line.

        Then you go down the granular levels and start counting if the money even actually dented FFP for those years. The Guardian article indicated off-the books payments of ‘tens of millions’ over a decade… Which considering Chelsea’s spending in those years is pretty much just a rounding error. The UEFA charges are already a wash because they can only look back over 3 years.

        Everton’s case is cut and dry, they repeatedly failed FFP. Man City’s financial doping is also in similar figures.

        Most of Chelsea’s big money doping happened long before FFP was even implemented properly.

  • Double-Reporter-2317@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Bring it on so we can get this over with! A bit unfair to the players though and I feel bad for all the work Poch did reconstructing this team!

    But serious question, can points deducted go to negative number?

    • mr_j_12@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Haven’t teams gone into negative due to points deduction for administaration?