It’s been 3 months since I have my new pc :

Intel Core i5-12400F 6 Cores, 2,5GHz

16GB of RAM

Geforce RTX 3060

The thing is, everything I do on my computer is so slow ! I freeze and crash everytime I switch between my different programs, everytime I try to launch a game, everytime I make something on my computer!

More than that, when I look at the task manager with steam, browser and discord open the cpu use doesn’t even reach 20%!

Everytime I launch a game that use a lot of ram and cpu I make sure to close my browser and every other useless programs but nothing helps!

Please tell me someone have a solution cause I feel like using a janky computer while it’s completely new.

The first one is my browser

  • apachelives@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    CPU temps? Could be throttling from cooler issues - sticker, not seated correctly etc or case does not have enough flow.

    SSD/HDD? If your running Windows or your games off a HDD that would be your issues.

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      10 months ago

      I had my pc built by LDLC (french company)they are really professionnal and are well known I don’t think it would be the issue

      I run Windows on HDD and have Linux on SSD but SSD with a lot of space is so expensive ! The thing is everybody in the comments are talking about SSD and it’s making me nervous gif

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        10 months ago

        Cherche pas plus loin, faut pas faire tourner Windows sur ton hdd, ça pue la merde.

        Un ssd de 500gb c’est à peine 30 balles par contre, pourquoi tu dis que c’est cher ?

        500gb c’est largement suffisant pour Windows, tes fichiers tu les stockes sur le hdd.

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        10 months ago

        SSD with a lot of space expensive? What do you see as a lot of space? Like 1 TB goes a long way and that cost 40 € which for pc parts is not expensive at all.

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        10 months ago

        While running Windows on an HDD will certainly make everything very slow and it’s a fact, it will not introduce freezes(at least long ones) and crashes. Sounds like your Windows installation might be borked or your hardware is not stable.

        If I were you, I would start with a clean Windows install, including the complete wipe of your system drive.

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        10 months ago

        A 500gb ssd is like $25 USD. You can keep the hard drive for general storage, but don’t put the os or commonly used programs on it.

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    10 months ago

    Few things to consider:

    Slow drives, mostly HDDs, can hugely impact performance (but should not be causing crashes)

    Task manager is not a great way to view utilization but it can do the trick most of the time. The important thing to realize is that the 20% metric refers to the all of the cores. If one core is running at 100% but the rest are sitting at 0 you’re going to see a low utilization even though that one core/thread. At the Performance > CPU screen change the graph to ‘logical processors’ rather than ‘overall utilization’ as it will give you a more accurate picture of what’s going on.

    There’s a chance that you have a hardware problem, but these issues (when as bad as you’ve described) usually justify a fresh install of Windows.

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      10 months ago

      I changed the graph and I see every core being used pretty much equally which I think is right.

      I installed HWInfo but I’m not really sure where to look at ? Since everyting is green I assume it’s alright ?

      I should consider re installing as you said…

      To be more precise about my crashes is for exemple when I launch a stream on discord every tabs open goes “not responding” and I have to wait several minutes to get everyting fixed. It happens with a lot of others actions too.

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        10 months ago

        Hard disk drives are many orders of magnitude slower than solid state drives.

        Back in the day, before we had SSDs, this is how a lot of things worked. We would wait a long time for programs to open, and the operating system would sometimes hang (long enough that it appeared to be crashing) when switching between workloads. It was a slow and painful experience.

        If you’re doing the majority if you work off the HDD, it’s going to be very, very slow. You can use the HDD for data storage, like backing up pictures, movies, music, etc. and you can even use it for some older games, but you should absolutely be running any modern version of Windows off an SSD at this point.

        There could be something else wrong, but I feel pretty confident that you’re simply underestimating how slow HDDs are.

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        10 months ago

        From what you’ve said elsewhere it likely is your HDD but it’s still good to take a look at your thermals. In HWInfo click the ‘Sensors’ button. It’ll bring up a fairly long list of different readings covering power usage, utilization, temperatures, and more. Scroll down until you see your CPU and Core temperatures. The 12th gen Intel CPUs have a max temperature rating of 100C and will cut power and clock speeds if that ceiling is being hit. If you see any cores bouncing off that number (or close to it) when under load you have a cooling problem. It should usually be much lower than that though. Depending on your ambient temperature, case, and cooling solution it could range anywhere from 25C to 50C at idle. With any minimally decent cooling setup and while under heavy load 80-90C can be considered normal but a good cooler will usually keep you under 80C, sometimes significantly.

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    10 months ago

    it sounds like you run a new build with a spinning hard drive.
    don’t do this… get an SSD.
    hard drives are great for STORING data not for running operating systems.
    technically they used to run on HDD in the past but now a days you really need a sata SSD to provide any kind of speed or snappiness.

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    10 months ago

    Looks like either a DRAMless dirt cheap SSD or a HDD hence low cpu and 9% disk but actually constant small IO ops

    Or virus, but no network usage so I doubt it

    Then again the PC is not high spec

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      10 months ago

      I have HDD Seagate BarraCuda 4 To (ST4000DM004)

      Almost sure I don’t have any virus

      What’s high spec ?

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      10 months ago

      True. Anyways I’m still grateful because others helped and I would have never figured out the issue was using HDD instead of SSD

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    10 months ago

    Yeah general computing shouldn’t be an issue for you. Is this a fresh install of windows? That can do wonders for problems like this, if it hasn’t been done in a while. Otherwise, ssd issue perhaps, you can use crystaldiskinfo to check drive health. Or, a temperature problem somewhere, are you monitoring temperature? I use hwmonitor. There’s also hwinfo which is what most people would recommend.

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      10 months ago

      I tried hwinfo and everyting was green. The thing is I’m on SSD.

      I freshly installed windows and I’m considering re installing it…

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    10 months ago

    Disk info? I hope you have windows installed on a SSD. IMO in this day and age, I do not see the reason to use HDDs in anything other then a NAS. Hell, I do not even use SATA SSDs in my builds any more.

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        10 months ago

        You need to get your main windows on a SSD. Even an ancient CPU like a 4790k will feel snappier with a SSD than a fast CPU without one.

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        10 months ago

        I said it’d be expensive to convert my entire 60TB NAS to SSD.

        A 1-2TB SSD to run your OS on is a perfectly reasonable expense, and will make a huge difference to your experience running the system.

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        10 months ago

        Get SSD/nvme They are now priced cheap, especially now on black Friday is fine deals too. Don’t need to be 4tb! Just 1 or 2 is fine (often 2tb are the same prices as 1tb or just a few buck difference)

        HDD turns on like 5min, not to mention if the WIN decidyto do some background stuff… pc becomes unusable for all that time and nothing will help, you will just sit and wait half an hour till it does stuff! So yeah - get an upgrade and save your time ^^

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      10 months ago

      NAS doesn’t even make sense, since you only get it if you have the money. And I bet that you can pay like 10% more for SSDs

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      10 months ago

      HDDs good for large storage especially if your on a budget (much cheaper at 4tb+). And SATA ssds are good if you don’t have more nvme slots.

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    10 months ago

    You don’t have “really good hardware”. It’s mid at best. However, what you are experiencing is not normal and most likely your PC is infected with a crypto miner.

    You will have to format your PC and reinstall Windows.

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    10 months ago

    Honestly, the first thing that popped into my head was a RAM issue. Are you running any type of OC on your RAM, DIMMs in the correct slots, using memory from your MoBo qualified vendor list, or mixing RAM? Could be a few different things, but this could definately cause this and would be the first thing I’d look at.

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    10 months ago

    Is your operating system on a ssd? System updates and drivers current? Have you checked the CPU socket for bent/missing pins? As a last resort try a fresh install of windows.

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    10 months ago

    Your issue is your HDD. it’s 2023, get an SSD even if it’s small and install windows on it. You can store your files on your HHD if SSD size is an issue but having windows on an SSD would be a huge upgrade and probably the fix you’re looking for.