Endless waves of Everton fans saying we haven’t broke the rules?

I’ve spent hours reading and hearing hundreds of takes from Everton fans and not a single one has claimed this. Stop talking utter bullshit.

I wonder if punishing Everton harshly is an attempt to set a precedent for strong punishments for Man City and Chelsea —-

“Look what we did to Everton, and they only had one small offense and then complied immediately with the investigation!

“You two have 100s of millions of fraud for which to answer, so yes, we’re taking your first-born sons, we’re banning Pep, and we’re demoting both of you to a Sunday pickup league in Farnham.”

One can hope, anyways.

1. Because they are Everton fans.
2. Because even though they have broken rules, they have seen their club decline massively, so don’t see any gain from the ‘cheating’ and feel especially hard done by. Like people’s no smoke without fire opinion for the City case, Everton have been so bad there is no smoke to see.
3. Because nobody likes City and they win everything so get a lot of clicks/exposure. Even though they are both accused of cheating, nobody differentiates the type of cheating on a legal basis. Everton were accused of financial doping while City are accused of hiding financial doping. They are similar from an outside perspective but very different cases from a legal perspective, with one being very easy to prove in court and the other a lot messier.

Firstly, Sean Dyche isn’t inexperienced with the odd relegation scrap. He’s kept us up before and he’ll do it again.

Secondly, people relate this to Man City for the deplorable 115 FFP breaches. For 1 charge, we are deducted 10. For 115, they get off scot free.

I see many Everton fans saying the club is guilty. There were two things that stuck out to me that make me not so sure. Everton are building a new stadium, to finance this they took out a loan. Everton allegedly got confirmation that the interest payments on their loan (many millions of pound sterling year) are deductible as per infrastructure spending rules as as such planned accordingly. The PL changed their mind on this decion part way through the 21/22 season and the said they would no longer allow this to be deductible. Obviously this added a big figure on to evertons spending, hence the 19.5 m overspend and player sales. Secondly an Everton player got arrested and suspended forcing Everton to end their contract with the layer and loosing out on his market worth. Now unforeseeable losses are allowed as mitigation, the PL however decided this could be a mitigating factor as it was a “business decision”.

The reason is that Man City and Chelsea have blatantly broken the competitive spirit of the game and irreversibly changed english football for the worst (and the world in general. Chelsea was a literal Putin ally ffs).

And yet the only shit that ever happens is to Everton?

Humans are super sensitive to selective rule enforcement. And everyone can tell that’s what has happened here.

I do feel for Everton, it’s a harsh punishment and I don’t think there should be punishment for investing what you like into a club to make it run better, that’s a good thing in business and that’s what football is now, which hurts as much as it’s true. The rules are stupid but if you’ve broken them and there is proof of that, you can’t complain.

On the City subject, I don’t understand how every fan thinks they’re guilty when the charges are accusations? It still has to go to a panel and case and most of the 115 charges are little things that have been duplicated from one charge like ‘failure to report financials on time’. It’s really petty to claim to be forthright and claim that your club has done no wrong when most clubs have. United got charged for FFP for a similar charge in the summer and got a small fine.

I do think if City get charged with the 115 charges, it will be the end of the premier league as we know it. They will get lawyers on the appeal and charges will be handed out to all other clubs i.e United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea. Because if City have done any wrong for trying to build a club, then the others have certainly done so. In the 90’s/early 00’s United paid record fee’s for many players and on that basis became as well supported as they are now to get that revenue stream they have from fans all over the world. It’s quite a conundrum the premier league have on their hands if there is no statue of limitations in their rules which has been stated many times.

I genuinely think the EPL have shot themselves in the foot here. One could say this was to demonstrate they can keep order in their own house, yet what it’s going to do it open so many negatives the EPL will (imo) be government regulated before long. The politicians are calling for this, and the EPL don’t want it, so you’ve got to ask yourself why don’t they want it? By trying to self regulate they’ve gone too far immediately and created a storm that won’t be contained - it’s going to be fascinating to watch.

The issue with the court case and why it probably won’t succeed is the precedent it will set. Would that mean if Chelsea and City are found to have broken rules, every team that finished below them could sue them for lost revenue/lost european football? Could Everton sue them as they missed out on CL in 13/14? It really takes you down a path that means the next decade will be spent in court deciding the results of the last decade.

Everton broke the rules and have been punished simple as that.

All our sympathy should be with there fans as its the club owners that got them into this mess.

The major difference between this and City is Everton were open and admitted to breaking the rules, just like Chelsea are now doing.

Chelsea will face similar punishment (possibly more severe)

As for city they are fighting against all 115 charges, but as soon as the case is done they’ll be punished to (I hope)

I do not agree with any difference of any of this cheating regardless of club, at the end of the day rules were broken and its time to pay the price.

I hope Everton stay up, and even Chelsea to, but if they go down the clubs are in prime position to come back to the prem after a year or to.

Those 3 teams have zero chance at winning a lawsuit

I definitely have not seen ‘endless waves’ if Everyone fans saying they haven’t broken the rules. I’ve seen a lot of dismay and gallows humour.

Everton have broken the rules, that’s undeniable, but they’ve not been treated fairly in accordance to other side’s who’ve also broken the rules.

I’m guessing here, but I expect Everton fans wouldn’t be as angry with the point deduction if Man City and Chelsea had faced similar punishments.

As a Liverpool fan I feel everton have been treated harshly. They never sought to hide anything and cooperated fully as soon as they found they had a problem. They broke the rules but city for example have tried to hide their wrongdoing at every turn. I feel punishing everton so harshly sends the wrong message. Now we know its best to not be honest if you make mistakes.

Three teams went down. If Everton had gone down only one would have stayed up. Why would all three be entitled to compensation?