I couldn’t get pass first 30ish pages in the main book (after reading trough the prefaces and skipping here and there reading some other stuff that piqued my interest also). It got me heavily depressed and left me feeling completely powerless and hopeless and it only reinforced the things I noticed and tought about USA myself.

And I just quit…prefering the sanity of ignorance to the madness of reality.

How can anyone hope to have a normal world with THAT…and I live in Eastern Europe…one would say far away from thr main American Influence. Not so far as it felt before. If we tought that the Nazis or the Communists were evil…ohoho boy…this book makes one feel like there is nothing more vile in the world than the United States of America government.

Did you read it? How did it make you feel?

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    chomsky’s work really challenges your perspective, doesn’t it? i think his critique of the us government is a wake-up call for many. it’s heavy stuff.

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    Yes there literally is nothing more vile in the world than the government of the USA. The greatest terrorists the world has ever known.

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    And I just quit…prefering the sanity of ignorance to the madness of reality.

    Reminds me of The Matrix character, Cypher

    You know… I know this steak doesn’t exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth; the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy, and delicious. After nine years… you know what I realize? Ignorance is bliss.

    It’s not easy but I’d imagine living in East Europe is all about experience life raw and direct. There’s no matrix in EE.

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    Chomsky came into his own during the protest movements of the Vietnam War - he developed anti-capitalist, anti-imperialists ideology (which was big back then) and has made the facts fit his ideology ever since.

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    Chomsky is literally “America bad. No other person or country has agency it’s just America bad”.

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    When it comes to his views on international stuff and geopolitics, Chomsky is pretty bad. His narrative is basically a reverse American Exceptionalism where the US is some kind of unique level of evil untouched by any other nation.

    I’m a pretty lefty person myself, but I really can’t stand that guy

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    Chomsky never quite properly manages to explain what would happen if America didn’t exist though does he.

    I suppose we’re supposed to intuit that Russia and China wouldn’t just swallow up every neighboring country.

    Not to mention when America does take a backseat and doesn’t get involves, shit like the Holocaust happens, but we’ll forget that for now, and ask ourselves like one of those classic rock bands, “yeah sure, but what have they done recently, their new albums suck!”

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    Chomsky is EXTREMELY antiAmerican, often to an irrational degree by either blaming America for everything or ignoring or even denying atrocities that aren’t connected to America.

    He is not a trustworthy or unbiased source. He’s got a fixation and his worldview is entirely centered around that fixation, causing problems if you want objective information. The dude’s a genocide denier on the basis that America said it was happening and thus clearly America HAD to be lying. In this particular case, the Khmer Rouge.

    He’s a smart guy. Do not trust him when he’s discussing history or current events

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    chomsky’s work can be really heavy, especially if you’re not used to his style. it’s okay to take a break if it’s getting too overwhelming. it’s important to engage with challenging ideas, but it’s also okay to step back when you need to.

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    I’ve watched many of his interviews, and I totally understand what you’re saying.

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    chomsky’s work really challenges your perspective, doesn’t it? i think his critique of the us government is a wake-up call for many. it’s heavy stuff.

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    So many Chomsky haters! It’s impossible to keep up. Most of them have clearly not read his work, but saw some clip somewhere, where Chomsky told the truth about things that are not presented on MSM, and could not stand that he dared to be critical. My advice, don’t listen to these smears on a very honest man who is more interested in the truth than promoting so called “American Exceptionalism”. Read what he has to say. Decide for yourself.

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    Wow you make the book sound really good! Looks like I’m going to have to read it now, I love it when people dissect the realities of American power.

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      Then you might want to pick someone who isn’t famous for his irrational hate.

      It’s a major issue with all his works outside of the theoretical and one he gets called for regularly, his objectivity is nonexistent and he treats the US is utterly evil and the root of all bad things in the world. He denied the Khmer Rouge genocide because the perpetrators were a communist government, long after everyone else figured out that the refugees weren’t lying. He’s fairly infamous for his lack of objectivity and the leaps of logic he takes to make America at fault for everything, basically a Satan figure.

      You’ll get plenty to scratch that ‘America bad’ itch but not really much that can actually be trusted. And if you can’t trust it, well, you might as well go on one of those subreddits dedicated to such complaining.

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      If you’re interested in this sort of thing, I also highly recommend the classic The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein, read it recently and it absolutely blew me away!

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        I was gonna recommend Klein as well. She’s honest about the problems we face but not surrendering to despair.

        I also recommend her latest book Doppelganger, which actually follows up on some of the themes in her earlier titles.