• TheLimeyLemmon@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Horrible timing this. We’re just getting to Semi Auto VAR becoming standard, making close offside calls heaps easier to understand for television audiences, and now they want to shake the whole rule up again.

  • PJBuzz@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    It’s worth trialling, but not in the premier League.

    The big positive is that it removes some of the subjectivity with line measurements being done from images that don’t have the accuracy for line measurement. People saying, “a toenail is still offside” have been pissing me off for years. The images they’re using are not accurate enough for that. They can draw it a couple of pixels off on both players and change a decision. Those pixels could be misleading due to artifacts that we have visually seen in the clips they used, such as oblong balls.

    When they have been drawing these lines I’ve always said that if they’re touching, they should stick with the on-field decision or give preference to the attacker.

    If they change it to what is being proposed, that whole debate is in the bin, as there has to be actual space between the players. There is still room for VAR error on tight calls, but that room is far, far smaller.

    On the other hand, a high press with offside trap is way harder to pull off unless you have quick CBs, that would be a big change to adapt to. I think it’s likely we see the defensive line dropping deeper when out of possession which could stifle play, and in some cases result in less goals.

  • funket0wn@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Shocked this is proposed. Why not just go off the feet versus any part of the body that can score.

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      10 months ago

      Been saying this for years. And if you want to go one step further, I’m sure there’s technology accurate enough where all players could have a positional sensor in their heels, one in the ball, and never have an incorrect offside again.

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      10 months ago

      Been saying this for years. And if you want to go one step further, I’m sure there’s technology accurate enough where all players could have a positional sensor in their heels, one in the ball, and never have an incorrect offside again.

  • Jealous-Pickle-5942@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    This is such a dumb rule. Does Wenger really believe that this will lead to more goals being scored? It’ll actually have the opposite effect!!! Defenders and managers will no longer find it feasible to play a high line or even a mid block!! It’ll result in fewer goals being scored not more !!In theory this would give an advantage to forwards but that won’t be the case! Forwards won’t have space to run into to begin with! because other teams won’t be naive enough to play a high line anymore!the issue here is that Wenger is thinking only from the perspective of the forwards who are trying to score a goal!!! he’s not considering the fact that defenders will adapt to this rule making the game more boring!! I have a theory as to why wenger and FIFA are so desperate to implement this new rule… they see this new rule as a way to make football more entertaining… football is a low scoring game and the new generation has such a low attention span in general which means that making football more entertaining (by increasing the number of goals scored in games) would lead to people paying more attention to the game. f.perez had a similar argument regarding the fact that nowadays fans don’t pay as much attention to a football match as they used to in the past… But as I stated above this will actually decrease the number of goals being scored… the reason why we have so many offsides in the modern game is due to the offside rule , however if the rule were to change in a way that gives an advantage to forwards then the number of offsides would drastically decrease , making this new rule pointless!! Might as well just scrap the offside rule altogether and make a new sport!! Football fans and wenger take the offside rule for granted, such drastic change for the rule would change football forever! It’d become a new sport!!! imagine every team attacking with less players, imagine teams like Liverpool no longer being able to press high, there wouldn’t even be a need for GK that are comfortable with the ball in their feet are no team would even be willing to press the opponent…I might have to stop watching the sport if this rule becomes a reality z hopefully the Pl will wait and the see the consequences that This rule would bring to football before implementing it in the PL…

  • Peepsy5@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    This doesn’t really solve anything. There will always be tight offside calls no matter where you shift the detection points. All that’s going to happen is VAR was trying to work out if the attackers toes are 1mm in front of the defender to now working out if the attackers heel is 1mm behind the defenders toe

    Personally, if they want to simplify the offside just measure it from the feet/the ground instead of trying to line up someone’s head with someone’s heel. Or if they insist on adding some complexity to the rule you only measure offside from the body part that’s made the pass/scored the goal.

    Otherwise it’s just another rule change where half the people who are arguing a decision don’t know the rule has changed vs the other half who don’t fully understand it anyway and ultimately doesn’t make a difference

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    10 months ago

    Instead of drawing microscopic lines in front of players we’ll be drawing them behind players. This doesn’t fix the problem.

  • j_j_footy@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    The knock on effect to the lower league’s and youth game without VAR would terrible.

  • ma11xdnyy@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    i see the potential drawbacks, but it could also lead to more intense defensive play. it’s a tough call, could go either way.

  • corpus-luteum@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    It’ll probably have an immediate impact as players adjust, but once they start trying to beat the offside it’ll just be the same old story. But worse football.

  • Daver7692@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Personally I think it’s a crap idea because:

    • adding more complexity to the rule that’s already so hotly contested is a recipe for disaster. As it stands it’s easier to decipher if someone is on/off compared to this new rule.

    • the main issue many have with the current rule and how VAR is used (extremely marginal offsides) will still remain, regardless of where the line is, there will always be situations where people will be narrowly offside. All this does is move the same issue 2 feet up the pitch.

    • it will encourage deep block, defensive, crap to watch football. Such an overwhelming advantage to an attacker (who are generally already quicker than defenders anyway) will lead to teams further reducing any space in behind them and sitting deeper on the field to prevent the chance of a runner behind them.