Patriarchy isn’t about doing cruel or oppressive things, though, it’s about enforcing, producing, reproducing and maintaining strict heirarchies of power and control along sex/gender lines. It’s a term describing a real social phenomenon, and the concepts of enforced gender roles and behaviours is absolutely fundamental to understanding it.
The socialization of both genders is socially produced and reproduced by both men and women, but women are socialized into being subservient to men - nowadays less so than they were in the past, but still girls and women are generally socialized more towards agreeableness and men and boys are generally socialized more towards aggression, for example.
With this in mind, do you still think that the term patriarchy is wrong? What would you call it, instead?
I’d use a genderless term, again to avoid alienating fence sitters and outsiders. Because people don’t like being associated with one if the greatest evils of society simply because they were born male. What is so fucking hard to understand about this?
Off the top of my head Opresser gets the idea across without suggesting a conspiracy by men as a gender to keep women repressed, as you said this state of being oppresses men just as it does women. You’d get more allies and less friction from the layperson if half aren’t subconsciously painted as minions and actors for the opressing class.
But that massively oversimplifies a very complicated idea, as I said a few comments ago, it’s really not just oppression. I really think you need to lurk in a few more feminist communities for a while longer, I think you still need to learn a bit, frankly!
Patriarchy isn’t about doing cruel or oppressive things, though, it’s about enforcing, producing, reproducing and maintaining strict heirarchies of power and control along sex/gender lines. It’s a term describing a real social phenomenon, and the concepts of enforced gender roles and behaviours is absolutely fundamental to understanding it.
The socialization of both genders is socially produced and reproduced by both men and women, but women are socialized into being subservient to men - nowadays less so than they were in the past, but still girls and women are generally socialized more towards agreeableness and men and boys are generally socialized more towards aggression, for example.
With this in mind, do you still think that the term patriarchy is wrong? What would you call it, instead?
I’d use a genderless term, again to avoid alienating fence sitters and outsiders. Because people don’t like being associated with one if the greatest evils of society simply because they were born male. What is so fucking hard to understand about this?
What genderless term do you propose?
Off the top of my head Opresser gets the idea across without suggesting a conspiracy by men as a gender to keep women repressed, as you said this state of being oppresses men just as it does women. You’d get more allies and less friction from the layperson if half aren’t subconsciously painted as minions and actors for the opressing class.
But that massively oversimplifies a very complicated idea, as I said a few comments ago, it’s really not just oppression. I really think you need to lurk in a few more feminist communities for a while longer, I think you still need to learn a bit, frankly!