According to one of the sources, long-time executive Mira Murati told employees on Wednesday that a letter about the AI breakthrough called Q* (pronounced Q-Star), precipitated the board’s actions.
The maker of ChatGPT had made progress on Q*, which some internally believe could be a breakthrough in the startup’s search for superintelligence, also known as artificial general intelligence (AGI), one of the people told Reuters. OpenAI defines AGI as AI systems that are smarter than humans.
OpenAI has a history of hyping the hell out of their discoveries. Remember GPT-2 that they didn’t want to release because it was too powerful but turns out it was pretty bad and they released GPT3 anyway?
I thought that was GPT-3, not GPT-2?
Right now, they are the absolute best, by far, so this kind of leaks are quite credible
best at something that’s not even close to AGI does not make them close to AGI
100% This
I remember the hype around gpt-4 lol.
We cannot release the model because it’s too dangerous, unless you pay for it
OK, so full speculation: this project could be an impl. of Q-Learning (i.e unsupervised reinforcement learning) on an internal GPT model. This would no doubt be an agent model.
Other evidence? The * implies a graph traversal algorithm, which obviously plays a huge role in RL exploration, but also GPT models are already doing their own graph traversal via beam search to do next token prediction.
Are they perhaps hooking up an RL trained model to replace their beam search?
That’s my feeling on what’s actually being reported Poorly by the news
GPT models are already doing their own graph traversal via beam search to do next token prediction.
I don’t think GPT is often used in conjunction with beam search or is it?
The star in Q* traditionally refers to a policy which is optimal.
Value function, pi is policy
of Q-Learning (i.e unsupervised reinforcement learning) on an internal GPT model.
Potential efficacity aside, imagine the scenario of those blabbermouths just eternally yapping among each other and that unbelievably boring wall of text should be what brings about superintelligence :)
So he was kicked out for being the opposite of “not totally open with the board”
“Q! I know you’re behind this, show yourself!”
What is happening with this sub? Where are all the good papers and real ML techinal discussions?
That train departed ~3y ago and new choo-choo-chat arrived a year ago
They’ve been replaced by uneducated Wikipedia experts.
AI is the new crypto. So you have ML bros who are clueless mouth breathers invading all of the original subs.
I’ve been in this game for almost 12 years, I’ve never been more popular, but I hate that it’s for this reason. I was listening to a talk the other day and the speaker really said something that resonated with me - Let’s make ML uncool again. I feel like I just want to unclutter the airways
This is the exact type of regarded comment that crypto trading bros bring to the discussions that I really enjoy.
i almost never comment on this sub but every time someone compares Ai to crypto i am reminded of this tweet by an OAI employee.
I felt like I was having a stroke reading that tweet
Overtaken by the “I love science!” crowd and liberal arts "ho-hum"ers coming to scold
Dude, like 5 years ago I remember there were less than 20k people, now there are 2million+ subscribed unfortunately. Almost all subreddits with big numbers are normy hype trains :(
I’ve been spending the latter part of the year learning machine learning from scratch so as not to fit into that crowd
Wow. I did not realize how fast this sub had grown. A decent amount of actual technical posts in the past too.
Did this turn into a default sub? I find it hard to believe over 2million people took the effort to find and subscribe.
Kind of. I recently made a new account, and Reddit asks you for your interests, AI being one of the options.
Thanks! That helps me connect the dots. It’s at least nice to know so many people express interest in ML.
Yeah, although I’m sad we can’t have both. I miss the place where I discovered and discussed ML research. Haven’t found a good replacement yet.
Yea this just popped up on my feed since I been following the OAI drama. First time seeing this sub recommended
It was too smart for me when I joined. But yeah had no idea it was this big now
Turning into WallStreerBets?
Its worse than usual some of the explanations for ELI5 are stuff even the r/futurism folks that invade here would know
Can someone help me understand, what does it mean by “smarter than humans”? Do those LLM just read internet text written by humans?
OpenAI defines AGI as AI systems that are smarter than humans? So not AGI as EVERYONE else understands it.
If humans can build AGI then so can an AI system smarter than humans. Therefore building an AI system smarter than humans is equivalent to building AGI.
Which humans though? My Casio watch is smarter than some humans
So the implication here is that the CEO knew about the breakthrough, but hid it from the board?
MSFT did experience a 20% climb over the last month. Maybe it was due to this news leaking out?
This all screams bs.
OpenAI’s hallucinations are big problems.
Ayyayyay the source for this. The news must be desperate to cash in on the drama. You have all these anonymous people pretending they work at OAI. Last one said that they had AGI internally. They used to do this with Google with conspiracy theories that Google was locking an AGI from everyone.
Given vast computing resources, the new model was able to solve certain mathematical problems, the person said on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on behalf of the company
I would take this with a heavy grain of salt.
Paywalled snippets of https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-made-an-ai-breakthrough-before-altman-firing-stoking-excitement-and-concern
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_lG1SmaEAAAYip.jpg
“A demo of the model circulated within OpenAI in recent weeks, and the pace of development alarmed some researchers focused on AI safety.”
https://manifold.markets/ZviMowshowitz/is-the-reuters-story-about-openais
Purported Q* priors: https://twitter.com/mark_riedl/status/1727482512425820200 ie just https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/project/textworld/
Janus (of aidungeon fame) calling it: https://twitter.com/repligate/status/1676196989833289728
AID sort of ran RL multi-agent system at a scenario world scale.
Also, this https://i.imgur.com/EHvVKBz.png Timestamp detail (UTC): https://i.imgur.com/EqfnryB.png
(more context https://old.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/181oe7i/openai_made_an_ai_breakthrough_before_altman/kadm3uh/)
This is what happens when AI is smart enough to generate gossip about itself.
‘hey chatgpt, generate some rumors to spin the recent unsettling news such that OpenAI is worth more after the insane public power struggle unsettles it’
Isn’t it clear that AGI took over OpenAI and is now moving all the pieces for world domination.
Why are people falling for this blatant PR spin?
