I tried Wayland again on my Vega and I see that the input delay dilemma is solved, but I do want to buy a new GPU and thinking Nvidia. Also a year ago I tried a GT 710 I had to see if the situation was that bad with general support. Since then I have seen that the situation is way better now. Last time I had Nvidia on Linux(for games) was with the GTX 800m series years ago and that was obviously on Xorg. What is the experience with RTX cards gaming on Wayland right now?
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does t work for me on arch, i get weird frame tearing type of effects on all my games, i saw im not alone as quite a few ppl have reported the same thing. i forgot the exact name of the problem. but some say it works tine for them. i just use x11 for now. im on kde plasma with a 4070 fwiw
BG3 is pretty good on Wayland on Pop, and even better with the 545 kernel. The mouse flickering is the biggest annoyance I notice. I also play Witcher 1, Mass Effect Legendary Edition, Kentucky Route Zero, and more all on Wayland on Pop and they work fine. I have a 3060 ti.
Good news, thanks
It’s debatable whether it “works” or not. Stuff does run but the flicker is horrible - so that’s a “no”.
I have a dual screen laptop. On Fedora with Nouveau both my screens are detected properly although I am stuck at 60 Hz on Wayland on the top screen while it can go up to 240 Hz. With the proprietary driver the bottom screen is not detected at all in Wayland. I cannot wait enough till NVK is a proper thing on Fedora.
It should be in fedora the next mesa update doesn’t it?
While I don’t have an Nvidia GPU myself I have seen quite a lot of posts about this or about how good Wayland overall is and from what I’ve seen it’s a very mixed bag. Some people say it works fine and some people say the gpu fucking exploded and leveled the entire city
It makes me wonder where the blame truly lies. Redditors love going off at nvidia in the comments in relation to Wayland, but the hardware with the official driver can crunch numbers on a render like no tomorrow perfectly fine, let alone render anything you please at full acceleration in X. It seems like the contributors behind Wayland already have access to accelerated hardware which evidently has no problem being used to accelerate things. Wouldn’t they be moving heaven and earth to squash the non-existent to city-leveling spectrum of issues people seem to be having with nvidia hardware today?
Just works for me (4060 laptop, Fedora GNOME, proprietary drivers)
The cake. Congrats.
Happy cake day
It’s OK. Most of my minor problems seem to do with XWayland: Steam UI flickers sometimes, some games get confused about which display they are on and mess up their resolution/position, sometimes games have some stuttering when not in fullscreen. All of these are somewhat annoying but easily mitigated or fixed. Performance feels good and everything is smooth. eg Skyrim, LOTRO etc. I haven’t tried any games that demand very high and stable FPS for a while. (RTX 2070, sway, arch)
Thanks for sharing the sway perspective! I’m an avid i3 enjoyer running similar hardware, and it’s great to hear that my most-likely Wayland window manager is giving a decent experience. :)
I just recently tried to switch to sway. If you have a 4k display, prepare for all your xwayland programs to be rendered 2k and upscaled.
Other wm have a workaround for that, but sway devs just completely dismissed the problem.
I just went back to i3, but that probably means I have to look for something else to switch, which sucks, because it changes my workflow…
What distro do you use? I have 2 questions - Fedora is aiming to drop support of X - so, your own choice will be Wayland - first, it appears they’ll do it in KDE and then Gnome. Thoughts?
2nd question (topic): do you try to configure your card with any voltage/fan curve programs? I’m just wondering what the options are with that and how well they work.
Nvidia - had Linux alternatives like GWE (Green With Envy), TuxClocker and another program - name escapes me…
GWE still works, apparently - but, I think it requires X/X11 - so, when distros like Fedora abandon X - then??? It won’t work?
Im on Arch and Sway so no thoughts about Gnome or KDE. GWE does not work on Wayland. I do some fan settings with nvidia-settings on commandline. We are desperately missing fancontrol etc on Wayland for nvidia.
How did you fix the flickering steam?
It isn’t a Steam problem. It’s happening due to the lack of implicit sync in the NVIDIA driver. This will be fixed only if explicit sync protocol is merged in Wayland Protocols, XWayland and the functionality is implemented in the compositors and NVIDIA driver.
Disable UI hardware acceleration in the Steam interface settings.
Such a classic solution. Just turning off the most important cpu offhanding settings.
I haven’t fixed it, it mostly goes away on its own after a while. And It doesn’t bother me that much as I switch to another workspace when not playing anything.
Update: Steam flickering went away with turning off GPU acceleration for web content. Both CS2 and OW2 run smooth ~200-300 FPS on “High” preset. They both have some flickering in menus but not in game. (1980x1080@144Hz, nvidia 545.29.06)
another update: switching sddm to use Wayland(Weston) instead of X11 seems to make everything just a little bit smoother and better. (no measurements or facts, just a feeling)
Pretty bad.
Can be okay if you’re lucky. But generally it’s just bad.
Supposedly the latest driver (545) is meant to address many of the common frustrations/issues with Nvidia + Wayland.
I am using opensuse, prime offload, integrated gpu first for desktop and nvidia for the rest, great working Sadly as I know it’s working good only intel igpu+nvidia In other way it’s still buggy mess
It’s definitely usable now but like other people have said xwayland is still a bit flakey and apps that don’t use pipewire or wayland for screen casting won’t work
I gave Fedora 38 a try earlier in the year, and had really bad lag just navigating Gnomes UI. Never even got around to trying out games. Lucky for me Debian 12 had just released and have been on that since.
X11 is still better, Wayland has a visible input lag and gsync doesn’t work.
https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/feature-g-sync-freesync-under-wayland-session/220822/75
https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/feature-g-sync-freesync-under-wayland-session/220822/53
For one the biggest features of Wayland oob ( Freesync/Gsync) it is busted.
Not completely solved but definitely better than yesterday.
Still wouldn’t recommend it. Not only do certain games just not work, there’s countless UI and graphical bugs. X11 however, works perfectly in comparison.
I cannot understand the extreme push for Wayland I see when it’s this much of a hit and mess still
Wayland just takes some of the config out and when it works it works really well. Once you try you see the potential and that is why the push exists. Months ago I didn’t care that much but saw the potential, with the input delay fixed I really like it.