Some more info from the latest Theo and Harris video. Christian comments customers not only got up and left but some dumped their investment in the watches. Christian also says he’s received “risky pictures and videos” of Journe before, and apparently gets too drunk and “fun”. He also aludes to racist comments imo by saying “his age and culture is not in necessary concert with modern times”. Interesting stuff.

Still confused why nobody will say what he said. If it was racist why not expose him? They did say they didn’t exactly know what was said at the dinner but feels like BS to me.Christian ends the video saying he would recommend to his friends that if you have hundreds of thousands of dollars in Journe to sell

  • YogoWafelPL@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    People sell of watches because of comments made by the person who designed them? lol

    If anyone has FPJ they’d like to part with for 1% of its price then call me, I’ll gladly take it off your hands

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    10 months ago

    Nobody’s gonna expose him till all the whales get their investment plus “reasonable rate of return.”

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    Still confused why nobody will say what he said.

    A few reasons to that. It’s going to generate more content and clicks by dragging this shit out long term, so for the YouTubers or content creators who make their living off of making watch content, the longer they talk about this by slowly releasing the info the better.

    Also, the watch industry is fucking weird, with most brands and individuals being oddly shuttered and extremely secretive, so the people who know this info probably do not want to directly come out and say what they heard, in fear of their identity being outed and being blacklisted in the industry. Not even exaggerating saying this but FPJ in particular will literally blacklist customers for selling their watches. They expect them to buy and keep forever, and if you ever sell, ESPECIALLY if it’s a limited production piece, you will never buy from them again.

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      10 months ago

      They likely just don’t know the details. It’s all second- or third-hand rumour to them too.

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    10 months ago

    Well you wouldn’t want to risk yourself being open to a defamation lawsuit so they just say stuff without saying anything.

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    Maybe they should give F.P. journe a second chance. Give his dad an opportunity to mentor him, sure he’s gonna give Christian’s dad a call and they’ll realize it was all locker room talk. It was an honest mistake and everyone deserves a second chance, right T&H?

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        10 months ago

        Huh? I just think people who get caught saying things should be able to let their daddy bail them out and mentor them through their mistakes? Don’t you?

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    10 months ago

    Oh no… You’re saying that as a respected watchmaker, one’s couldn’t have a life or having a personality? So are they an AI now?

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    If it was racist why not expose him?

    Him saying a racist thing to someone in person = 1 or a few people might get hurt. Repeating a racist thing he said to 10k+ people = a lot of people might get hurt.

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    10 months ago

    Fingers crossed Jorne prices tank. I missed an opportunity for a CB back in 2017. I got cold feet about such a big buy while still in college. The boutique called and said my order was ready and I regrettably cancelled.

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    Been trying to find out what Journe said, Hodinkee has been covering him like it’s their job, maybe it is 🤔

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    The guy behind FP is a racist? Isn’t the guy behind every company a racist?! It’s all rich White Europeans. Of course they’re racist. The guy buying a $250k watch is also a piece of shit. Impossible to gain that much wealth and not be.

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      Yes, only rich, white, Europeans can be racist. Get real. This isn’t the forum to be virtue signaling about your Marxist ideology. Lots of good people buy high quality watches.

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    I mean honestly, as far as I’m concerned, T&H are about as interesting as day-old porridge…so, should their character judgements matter much?

    Until I hear concrete confirmation of what FP is accused of having done, and make my own judgements, I’ll hold off on joining this glittering bandwagon of bullsh…

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    Their video is ridiculous, one of them didnt even know FP journes name yet we’re expected to take whatever they say as truth. They’ve never met him, dont know his full name, dont own any. Lets not take this as anything other than a couple of out of touch american kids who couldnt point to Switzerland on a map speculating about rumours to drive engagement with their videos

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    10 months ago

    Lmao imagine canceling a fucking watchmaker. I’ll get a Chronometre Bleu from one of you for 2k if it’s too racist