Tired of constantly having conversations like this:

“Where are you from?”

“USA”

“But where are you really from?/But whats your nationality?/Are you actually american?.. like… full american?”

American isnt a race! American =/= white. Yes im “full american” even though im ethnically latino! If you want to know my ethnicity/race then just ask me that instead of implying im not a “real” american.

I know most people asking this arent doing so from a place of malice, but damn does it get tiring after the 100th time.

  • Easy_Yogurt_376@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I think it goes deeper than certain people want to admit. It goes to show how even if you are a naturally born citizen, it takes more to be seen as American in our society. There are American passport holders all over the world with no connection to the country or the culture whatsoever. I’d assume the same goes for other countries even with multiethnic populations. If your parents or grandparents are not from America, it more than likely will show in your speech, mannerisms, style, other methods of expression. The Americanization typically happens in or after the teenage years but by then what’s taught at home is usually already ingrained to a degree. It’s no surprise that other Americans that aren’t first generation can sniff this out. It’s probably similar for any country with a history and populations that have been there for long spans of time.

    Why people with recent immigrant history here in America pretend they aren’t still very connected to their ethnic groups while still retaining those cultures is disingenuous. This tends to be manifested a lot via interpersonal conflicts that take place within certain Latin American and Asian American individuals who are more than likely tend to be from very recent stock. With recent arrivals of various subgroups vs those that have already been through this rodeo, the “why am I not seen as” is exasperated.

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    10 months ago

    I’m white and my (now deceased) mom used to do this and it was cringe.

    However at the same time, my mom was kind, an internationalist traveler and was genuinely interested in a persons heritage because she had a complete shit life with abusive parents until she met my dad. She was very kind and would invite you over for a meal or give you a place to stay if you needed it.

    Some people come off ignorant but they just don’t know any better.

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    10 months ago

    I’m curious to hear what you all think of this. I’m white with an unrecognizable accent that came out of years of not being able to talk right (so not a pleasant memory to relive with strangers). I get asked this question a lot. I really want to say “Hope you don’t ask this to someone you think LOOKS different!” But most of the time it happens at work and I have to avoid any confrontation. I really have no idea how to respond to this other than to literally answer the question and then they get confused or throw in the “but where are you REALLY from??”

    It’s annoying as hell, but I started using it as a filter. The people who I end up becoming friends with don’t ask me that question and I will share my story later on. They know better.

  • butlikewatifthiserrr@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    Sometimes I say I’m American when I am asked what my ethnicity is.

    Actually do often.

    I’m Filipino, white. But American.

    But all in all, I’ve only been out of the country once.

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    10 months ago

    I’m always slightly surprised, irritated, and disappointed when I am in London, with the wealth in British diversity there, and at least once on every trip I endure the same questioning. I’m Latina and look indigenous (think Hawaiian or Alaskan native), and have what some people have told me is a California accent (it’s just the typical Hollywood accent to me). Even with my strong and clear American accent, people either don’t believe I’m American or insist I must have been born in another country. They think I’m playing a joke on them. A lot of comments here come from White Americans that don’t understand covert racism and how it wears POC down. Traveling non-White comes with a whole host of anxieties and aggravations unique to non-White Americans, Brits, Australians, Etc.

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      10 months ago

      This is peak 2023 first world problem tbh

      If a random white boy like Elon Musk shows up saying “I’m African-American,” you know what your first thought would be too

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        10 months ago

        Oh, you probably need a little help. Elon Musk is South African. If he ever identified with the American hyphen, he would be South African-American. See that ‘South’ makes a difference. Also, we all know South Africa has White people, right? Otherwise, why do we know South Africa for their former Apartheid state?

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    10 months ago

    A lot of foreigners don’t know this and they are curious meeting someone who is not from their country. Seems like a good opportunity to educate people about your American experience. If you’re the Mexican sort of latino it gets even more interesting in terms of the history surrounding the American southwest/California.

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    10 months ago

    I only ask that question if the person has an accent. It usually means that they immigrated sometime after their youth. But if there is not an accent, I figure probability is native born.

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    10 months ago

    Since I’m the first of my family born in U.S. and bilingual, I just tell people abroad that I’m Indian, and add that I’m American-born if asked. Most times gets a more positive response. Introducing myself as American often sparks a diatribe from others.

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    10 months ago

    That’s what travel brings. A vision of other nationalities. The United States is unique in its multiculturalism and history of immigration. It is confusing for them but they are likely just interested. I doubt pointing out your race had any negative implications. Germans look different than Italians for example. If someone looked german and they were from Italy they would get the same questions.

    If the conversations go as you say, you might be oversensitive to race assuming it is always associated with racism. It is normal to discuss race.

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    10 months ago

    Funny thing seeing an American getting mad at people for not knowing about American things when they themselves don’t, in general, know much about anything outside of the USA.

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    10 months ago

    THe US is thought of as an Anglo country, with some Blacks. So you need to let them know that it is more mixed these days including Latino

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    10 months ago

    We can commiserate when an American born in X is accepted as an X.

    Substitute with your country of choice:

    Afghanistan
    Algeria
    Argentina
    Armenia
    Azerbaijan
    Bahrain
    Bangladesh
    Bhutan
    Botswana
    Brunei
    Cambodia
    China
    Colombia
    Costa Rica
    Cuba
    Djibouti
    Dominican Republic
    Ecuador
    Egypt
    El Salvador
    Eritrea
    Ethiopia
    Fiji
    Gabon
    Georgia
    Ghana
    Guatemala
    Guinea-Bissau
    Guyana
    Honduras
    India
    Indonesia
    Iran
    Iraq
    Israel
    Japan
    Jordan
    Kazakhstan
    Kenya
    Kuwait
    Kyrgyzstan
    Laos
    Lebanon
    Lesotho
    Libya
    Madagascar
    Maldives
    Mali
    Mauritania
    Mongolia
    Morocco
    Mozambique
    Myanmar (Burma)
    Namibia
    Nepal
    Nicaragua
    Niger
    Nigeria
    North Korea
    Oman
    Pakistan
    Panama
    Papua New Guinea
    Paraguay
    Peru
    Philippines
    Qatar
    Rwanda
    Saudi Arabia
    Senegal
    Seychelles
    Sierra Leone
    Singapore
    Solomon Islands
    Somalia
    South Africa
    South Korea
    South Sudan
    Sri Lanka
    Sudan
    Suriname
    Swaziland (Eswatini)
    Syria
    Tajikistan
    Thailand
    Timor-Leste
    Togo
    Trinidad and Tobago
    Tunisia
    Turkey
    Turkmenistan
    Uganda
    United Arab Emirates
    Uzbekistan
    Vanuatu
    Venezuela
    Vietnam
    Yemen
    Zambia
    Zimbabwe

      • Real_Dust_1009@alien.topB
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        10 months ago

        Do you have family from Argentina?

        Why not just say “I’m from the states” and “my background is Argentinian.”

        Many people are close minded and low IQ. It will make your life much easier once you realize that you are way smarter than 95% of the people you meet.

        And your life will be way easier when you decide to change the way you respond, instead of wondering why low IQ people ask stupid questions.