• _cumblast_@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    In football its is a widespread belief that in order to be remembered you need to win silverware.

    Hungary of that time is one of the exceptions to that rule.

    • cib_vk228@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Nonsense. Hungary '54 and Netherlands '74 lost in final, but are still remembered fondly.

      • WalkingCloud@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        Totally disagree, Hungary '54 and Netherlands '74 are remembered even though they didn’t win silverware IMO

        • Matthew_1453@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          Though you just mentioned the same 2 teams as the other reply. Those are the 2 major exceptions (obviously there’s others too)

      • Krillin113@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        So like 2 teams over the last 70 years? (Id personally add Brazil and the Netherlands 1998 as well)

      • SpookyHideaway@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        It’s hardly “nonsense”. OP said that Hungary are one of the exceptions. There’s not that many teams who didn’t win a tournament who end up remembered to that extent.

        Hungary are unusual too in that they only had a brief period with those players. If they were from a different country and stayed together as a group they would have had another go in 1958.

        • bb9622@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          This Hungary team only had 1 major tournament. Hungary withdrew from the 1950 WC, afaik it was because of the 1952 Olympics (which they won and I have no idea how highly it was regarded back then), then they played in the 1954 WC (there were no Euros at the time, it only started in 1960), and then the 1956 revolution happened.

          • SpookyHideaway@alien.topB
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            1 year ago

            Yes that’s what I was referring to in my post. It was a brief period where they were the best.

            The Olympics was regarded as relatively important then. Not to everyone but much more than now. It’s why the game against England had added prestige as they were arriving as Olympic champions.

    • BlueAzania@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I love how English can confuse someone if they’re not well-conversant with the language.

        • basmati-rixe@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          The only slight grammatical error was putting “its is”. And even then that’s so nit picky. The sentence was perfectly worded.

        • Ok-Satisfaction-5012@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          Most people’s minds, when fluent in a language, will often literally autocorrect mistakes like that and only recall them if they deliberately attempt to, you’re fine

        • BlueAzania@alien.topB
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          1 year ago

          I’m referring to how the other guy in the thread completely missed the point of your argument.

          Your comment made perfect sense just to clarify.

    • just_a_funguy@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      No, they are not. The general public doesn’t even know about them. They are pretty irrevant. Uruguay who won last during the stone ages are remembered more fondly