Seen both Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher criticising Alisson for being clearly fouled during the game saying he needs to do better, both amongst others said the same about Gabriel when Joelinton pushed him into the goal with both hands. What is with the victim blaming from pundits, can’t exactly do much when someone fouls you
Cry harder gobshite
You say victim blaming and then say they are fouls incredible
I thought that goal would stand to be honest. Wasn’t too much in it but have no qualms that it was overturned.
The second one was clearly a foul though
Incredibly soft foul. I thought it was ridiculous to not be given to be honest.
Not a single chance you get away with pulling on a goalkeepers arm.
When ederson saved Darwin’s header, city got a foul for Jota jumping at the same time as walker.
Both soft yes but if you start soft you need to be consistent and making contact with a keepers arm as he’s in the process of trying to catch a cross is consistent with the foul given to city
It’s a contact sport, which has sadly been sanitised beyond recognition. Goalkeepers in particular get a ridiculous amount of protection; they don’t need more.
So you can pull a keepers arm when he goes to catch?
Not pull, no. But it pisses me off when a keeper (who has the innate advantage of being able to use his hands) goes up for the ball with an attacking player (who can only use his head), and the ref immediately blows his whistle despite there being minimal contact. Basically, all a keeper has to do is drop the ball, and they’re virtually guaranteed to be awarded a free kick.
So your annoyed at something else then and not what happened here
It’s hardly a pull. If Akanji’s light contact truly caused him to go down like a sack of shit, then Allison needs to toughen up. But I suspect that if the rules didn’t favour keepers, and there was no chance he’d be awarded a free kick, he would’ve shrugged it off.
Reminds me of the disallowed firmino goal against you lot
In this instance though alissons arm was clearly pulled down, reducing his reach so they correctly gave a foul
Do you think Alvarez’ goal should have stood?
Do you mean Dias’ goal?
Whoever it was
Yeah, it should. Big lad like Allison shouldn’t be getting pushed around like that.
If you’re allowed to pull the goalkeeper’s arm and barge them to the ground I’d be telling my players to do it throughout the whole match. It’s a foul, some people get way too hung up on the “game going soft” and ignore really obvious fouls
Fair enough. But then you get outfield players doing the same to each other all game, so do we stop that too? We’ve already got rid of the tackle from behind (even poking the ball between the player’s legs), a lot of tackles from the side, 2 footed tackles no matter how safe, hard tackles, all but the tamest of shoulder barges…
Every single change is made to benefit attacking players. Not because of any general concern for footballer welfare, but because attacking players are more marketable and profitable for the game. After all, TV deals are sold by the likes of Salah, Haaland and Saka. Most replica shirts don’t have Casemiro, Caicedo and Hojbjerg on the back.
Does this hard-line on physical play make matches more entertaining, though? Not in my opinion. A mix of flair and grit works better for me. The classic Man United vs Arsenal matches – when Keane, Vieira, Stam and Keown kicked the shit out of each other, while Scholes, Henry, Giggs and Pires provided the skills – were peak Premier League.
Outfield players aren’t trying to grab the ball with their hands. The second a player interferes with the keepers hands/arms with their own, it’s a foul for me.
Outfield players use their feet and legs to control the ball. Should it be a foul every time there’s contact between players’ legs?
If they hooked someone’s leg out of the way with their own foot, then yeah.
Seen both Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher
Well that’s your problem right there, mate. You don’t get your medical advice from your gardener, and you don’t get your football commentary from morons.
You sent them directly to their graves with that comment 😂😂😂
I mean in many cases we have no choice
This is right there with some of the best comments ever posted on this platform……”you don’t get your medical advice from a gardener”
Classic stuff!
sunshiiiiinnnneeeee gary neville. carragher is insufferable at times. both get far too much air time, if Sky hired different ex pros for different games more frequently, we wouldn’t have to listen to the same old rhetoric every week.
richards is fine but in small doses, however he works for 3 different networks so he is seemingly unavoidable when youre trying to get insight into a game.
It’s always been crap. Watched a game when ex managers like Wenger and Mourihno and it was worlds apart from the drivel I hear from these ex players.
That goal should’ve stood. The ref absolutely robbed City of that game.
Most soft reason you’ll see all year that will rule out a goal. Utterly disastrous refereeing.
Wasn’t a foul for me. Allison is notoriously poor with his feet and showed again today twice. If he can’t pick that out of the air with a small bit of pressure then he’s really lost it. If he played for Burnley everyone would say he was awful but alas he doesn’t.
Also the joelinton “push” was Gabriel bending down to flick the ball behind him with his head. Go watch again with this in mind and you will see he wasn’t pushed.
Keepers get far too much protection, goal should have stood.
Lmao why are the arsenal/ Liverpool fans the ones always away from their own sub😂
It’s crazy to see how bad your pundits while in France I really think we have top class commentary with people who really know and understand the game without any click bait attitude!
It wasn’t a foul at all 😂
One of the commentators on sky said that Trent smashed the ball in. Literally stroked it.
Another commentator said when Sterling scored the free kick that it epitomised his season. That makes no fucking sense.
In the Arsenalverse, punditry moved from:
Who is this David Raya guy?
to:
Wait a minute, why did they go get David Raya when they already have Ramsdale?
to:
Which one of these dudes is going to be the #1?
to:
OMFG, Raya is terrible and Ramsdale is literally Oliver Kahn, why is he playing?
and now, finally, to:
I wish they would just make a choice so people could shut up about Raya and Ramsdale.
Now. Here’s what actually happened: Arteta and Edu saw the opportunity to get a keeper they thought was better than the one they had. They got him, and immediately began starting him. He has continued starting. Arsenal has the best defense in the league, some of which is down to Raya. At no point has the actual behavior of the Arsenal coaching staff or front office ever really shown anything other than that Raya is the top guy, and will continue to be, other than Arteta doing a little faffing about in press conferences so as not to hurt Ramsdale’s feelings.
Oh, and if you watched the Brentford match? Aaron Ramsdale ain’t no Oliver Kahn.
Ah Gary Neville, the genius mind who invented the concept of a holiday, although his original trademarked term was “mini retirement”