It doesn’t work well on NVIDIA RTX 3080 or AMD 7900 XT
that is quite strange, not sure whats up with that.
Wayland is bad. Wayland is VERY bad, in fact. It is by far the worst display technology of any major platform.
You are correct, and X11 is pretty much neck to neck with it assuming they both work in how bad it is, but to be fair, X11 is a display server from the 80s that had no business making it this long without a properly functional competitor, and wayland, while it has been developed for 15 years, is still relatively young compared to other OSes.
However what you say is true, none of that matters because why it’s the case makes no difference to an end user. Linux just has clearly inferior display solutions to any other mainstream OS i’ve seen. Only way I can possibly see that’s going to change is if wayland is able to take over, and if maybe, just maybe enough people involved with it can actually realize that maybe their display server should have basic features that have existed since the 90s. I understand they have a philosophy, but its practically the same philosophy as the macOS display server and they figured out how to make things functional without compromising their philosophy like 5 years ago. Even if all that does happen though, that’s a ways off. Hopefully some day linux can have an actual fully featured display server, although i acknowledge thats no easy feat.
Well, the macOS display server just had the right technologies put into it at a very early age. It’s based on work from Adobe and movie studios, and as a consequence it has scaling and colour management which is to die for.
Wayland started from such a different approach. They started not with a look to the future, but with a look to disconnect from the past with no regard for the future. They were more worried about removing old things like hardware sprites and built in fonts than they were worried about proper display scaling and things like that.
I mean it looks like it’s gonna get there. They’re approaching these things. Steam Deck has amazing HDR from everything I hear. But the day this is fixed is not today, and I can’t use it anymore. :(
yeah, it’s a shame the way the Wayland devs approached it in the beginning. I wish I hadn’t been spoiled by linux desktop environments because it would be significantly easier to just go back to windows and get properly functional display software. I really want to because I screen share a lot and that’s a massive inconvenience on wayland, or just on linux in general, but then I have to give up the desktop environment I’ve gotten used to.
that is quite strange, not sure whats up with that.
You are correct, and X11 is pretty much neck to neck with it assuming they both work in how bad it is, but to be fair, X11 is a display server from the 80s that had no business making it this long without a properly functional competitor, and wayland, while it has been developed for 15 years, is still relatively young compared to other OSes.
However what you say is true, none of that matters because why it’s the case makes no difference to an end user. Linux just has clearly inferior display solutions to any other mainstream OS i’ve seen. Only way I can possibly see that’s going to change is if wayland is able to take over, and if maybe, just maybe enough people involved with it can actually realize that maybe their display server should have basic features that have existed since the 90s. I understand they have a philosophy, but its practically the same philosophy as the macOS display server and they figured out how to make things functional without compromising their philosophy like 5 years ago. Even if all that does happen though, that’s a ways off. Hopefully some day linux can have an actual fully featured display server, although i acknowledge thats no easy feat.
Well, the macOS display server just had the right technologies put into it at a very early age. It’s based on work from Adobe and movie studios, and as a consequence it has scaling and colour management which is to die for.
Wayland started from such a different approach. They started not with a look to the future, but with a look to disconnect from the past with no regard for the future. They were more worried about removing old things like hardware sprites and built in fonts than they were worried about proper display scaling and things like that.
I mean it looks like it’s gonna get there. They’re approaching these things. Steam Deck has amazing HDR from everything I hear. But the day this is fixed is not today, and I can’t use it anymore. :(
yeah, it’s a shame the way the Wayland devs approached it in the beginning. I wish I hadn’t been spoiled by linux desktop environments because it would be significantly easier to just go back to windows and get properly functional display software. I really want to because I screen share a lot and that’s a massive inconvenience on wayland, or just on linux in general, but then I have to give up the desktop environment I’ve gotten used to.