I’ve been following Ashley and Manuel’s journey on the show, and I can’t shake off the concerns I have. Manuel’s secretive nature and reluctance to share much about his personal life, coupled with his expectation for Ashley to financially support his family, have me seriously worried. Manuel’s habit of frequently running off on Ashley is sending up some major red flags. It’s got me thinking that Ashley might be better off cutting her losses sooner rather than later.

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    10 months ago

    Manuel is no saint, but the way she disparages him in front of her friends in a language he can’t understand is messed up. I also think he has a very sarcastic sense of humor, which doesn’t translate well in a second language. When he asked her, “what are you, an octopus?” cracked me up, but she took such offense to it.

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      10 months ago

      I got that impression too. I don’t think she vibes with that, which makes no sense as he is sarcastic, dry personality through n through…does she just crush on his looks n bedroom skills? Lmfao

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      10 months ago

      I agree with this. He is very sarcastic. I’m also a very sarcastic person and people often take it the wrong way.

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      10 months ago

      The octopus comment got me 😂 I dislike Manuel but have come to dislike Ashley much more because she 1) puts up with it while complaining constantly and 2) cannot handle a single emotion without asking someone else for help. The panic attack in the car on the way to the airport, she calls her sister, then she calls her friend to complain like a brat in a language her partner doesn’t understand (this was so rude and gross to me.) For an allegedly spiritual person she seems to fly off the handle constantly. Manuel has kids and seems to be a hard working person that loves his family back home. It is clear he is not there for Ashley but she ALLOWS it which is why I don’t feel sorry for her at all. He is taking an opportunity and I honestly don’t blame him for doing so!

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    10 months ago

    She’ll do anything but leave him. I don’t feel sorry for her. He’s clearly let her know multiple times what it is and she still thinks she can change him.

    Accept it or be single

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    10 months ago

    I was thinking that Manuel had two children around age 13-15 or something. But tonight Ashley says that “the baby’s mother isn’t around like she needs to be so the financial care leans heavily on Manuel.” So how many kids does Manuel have and by how many women and i wonder how old is this baby? I thought she and Manuel had been dating for years…and he is having babies on the side?

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    10 months ago

    My Thots suspects he has a wife back home and I never even considered that but it does make sense.

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    10 months ago

    They def don’t make sense as a couple, but I did think it was cool how she called her friends while he was in the car and told their business knowing he can’t understand her

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      10 months ago

      Rude and troublesome,plus immature…she wants the sex and absolute control…he’s a man with responsibility to his family back home,many many foreigners do this…do these people speak about these very serious facts before they leap into another country and life?

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    10 months ago

    She’s just as bad as him. She’s selfish and immature. She cries constantly and talks down to him. She was well aware he wouldn’t be able to work for a period of time and has kids. How dare she be mad that he’s expected to send them money. She’s disgusting for wanting him to abandon his kids.

    I don’t think he’s in this relationship for the right reason but if he did love her at some point she bullied the love out of him! She’s beyond immature … calling her friend to cry while he’s in the car next to her… grow the F up These two fight for control and are horrible to each other. Rico sauve deserves better than either of them.

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      10 months ago

      She even said this. She said the only time they are in sync is when they are having sex and the rest of the time they are on opposite sides.

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        When she said that, I thought to myself, “She’s a smart woman, smart enough to know what the deal with Manuel is and that he’s using her. But she’ll still go ahead and marry him.” I’m guessing she has low self-esteem or is afraid to be alone. Sex can only take you so far in a relationship.

        As someone who’s had a weakness for Latin American guys, I would never go for a guy like Maniuel.

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            10 months ago

            It’s hard to pick just one. He’s shown himself to be sexist, disrespectful, and racist towards Ashley. He comes across like a man-child. Ashley seems like someone who has ambition, while Manuel doesn’t. I can never understand women finding petulant, immature men who leech off of them attractive. They’re a nahor turnoff to me.

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              I agree. Men who leech is a definite no. If a man could not afford anything, then he couldn’t afford me. But she did say he has been cooking a lot. That is on the plus side. I would love for my husband to cook a whole meal for me. Maybe to Ashley, his cooking a lot and the great sex is worth all the other negatives she has to deal with.

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    10 months ago

    She signed an affidavit of support. By law, he cannot work until he gets the green card, in about 2 years. He has 3 kids, that’s all anybody needs to know to understand that he has to pay child support. The only way she could marry her is if she supports him for a time, I don’t think he is unreasonable. It’s just the way it is

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      Exactly. That’s the entire reason why they make sure the American person makes a certain amount of money. They agree to support this person until the green card comes which seems to take at minimum a year. I doubt he enjoys having to rely on her for financial support. It appears that he worked quite hard in Ecuador to support his family.

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    10 months ago

    You’d think with all the energy work and brujería, Ashley would pick up on Manuel’s dark ass aura.

    The dude seems like he may or may not have killed someone or seen someone be killed. Also he has the facial expressions and lip movements of toddler???

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    10 months ago

    They’re still together IRL per a recent social media post wishing him a happy birthday. So,wine posted it on here…

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    10 months ago

    This couple doesn’t make sense to me at all. They have so many differences and both are stubborn in their ways.

    I could not stand how she called a friend in the car to vent about him in front of him!! Give yourself a few minutes to cool off. Take some time and calm yourself down and sip on the multiple coffees you had around you. Or you know at least WAIT UNTIL YOURE ALONE to vent it out to a friend.

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    Now, I don’t think he’s great at communicating, and that could be a cultural thing, or how he was raised, we don’t know. I can’t attest for Ecuador but I can tell you in some Hispanic cultures, the man is the man. He works, pays the bills, and makes the rules, and everyone in the household respects him and does what he says. The woman’s place is at home, cooking and cleaning, and taking care of her man. Now I’m not saying this is a right or wrong way to do things, but it could be a reason he is the way he is. He CAN’T work right now, so he has to depend on her. Her nagging and constantly talking down on him can’t make him feel that great. He left everything behind and he just wants to be in contact with his family (which is typically also huge in historic culture) but she yelled at him for his family calling too much on her phone, after she told him he’d have to use her phone since his didn’t come in yet. She needs to make up her mind. IMO, coming from a DV relationship, Ashley is abusive. Yelling at him, belittling him, controlling him. Last week when they had that chat at the restaurant, the way she looked at him and spoke through her teeth at him gave me chills, because that’s exactly what my ex did to me. Abuse isn’t always physical. It can be emotional, mental, etc. She also seems like now that she’s got him here she’s trying to isolate him from his family, and wants to “supervise” communication with them, which is also a form of abuse. I hope he goes back to his family and escapes her before it gets worse, honestly.

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    10 months ago

    Dude is trying to manage multiple relationships at once. He’s got his wife and family back home. He’s got his sugar mamma ticket to USA Ashley here. He’s trying to figure out how to make this hustle work.