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2 months ago@julian @silverpill the HTML discovery tf doc is filling in. There’s still a lot to do but maybe that’s a good place to ask questions.
Evan Prodromou
He/him. Board member at CoSocial.ca.
Research Director, Social Web Foundation.
Director of Open Technology at Open Earth Foundation (OEF).
Author of “ActivityPub: Programming for the Social Web” from O’Reilly Media.
Founder of Wikitravel, StatusNet, identi.ca, Fuzzy.ai.
Creator of pump.io. Co-creator of GNU social.
Co-chair of the Social Web Working Group at W3C. Co-author of ActivityStreams 2.0. Co-author of ActivityPub. Co-author of OStatus.
Grad student in CS at Georgia Tech.
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@cygnathreadbare@retro.pizza @Flipboard@flipboard.social @Gargron@mastodon.social @mmasnick@mastodon.social @quillmatiq@mastodon.social @Sarahp@mastodon.social @tantek.com@tantek.com Probably having a very usable Firefox helped out with that a lot too.
I don’t know if it would have made sense to prevent Microsoft from “embracing” the Web; we would have lost a lot of people and utility to the whole ecosystem.
@cygnathreadbare @Flipboard @Gargron @mmasnick @quillmatiq @Sarahp This comes up so often. I wonder if there is any good historical documentation for the strategy of dealing with “Embrace, Extend, Extinguish” …? I think the famous example of Microsoft’s embrace of the web, and extension via ActiveX and other proprietary features, was headed off by vigorous defense of open standards by @tantek.com , Molly Holschlag, others in the Web Standards group. https://www.webstandards.org/
@AngelicAura@pol.social @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm yes, we think that moderators and admins shouldn’t have to go broke and quit and shut down their servers.
We’d like to help figure out ways to keep them going – I prefer the coop model, like the CoSocial server I use, but that’s not for everyone.
@Neblib@mastodo.neoliber.al @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm Us too!
@Neblib@mastodo.neoliber.al @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm thanks. That’s a fair critique. I’ll see what I can do to get the full status of the project onto those pages.
@Neblib@mastodo.neoliber.al @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm It took me a while to figure out what you meant here.
The projects are just starting because the organisation just launched. We’ll show the deliverables on those pages when they’re done.
@BeAware@social.beaware.live Thanks for the thoughtful reply. It’s really helpful.
@jackemled@furry.engineer @AngelicAura@pol.social @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm IFTAS is awesome.
@AngelicAura@pol.social @Flipboard@flipboard.social @mallory@techpolicy.social @tomcoates@me.dm why? That’s not what we’re working on at all. What made you think the point is advertising and trackers?
@tom@tomkahe.com @BeAware@social.beaware.live @DrakkenZero@retro.pizza @swf@socialwebfoundation.org that’s right. We’re using the AP plugin. Great to use!
@BeAware@social.beaware.live I don’t think our goal is just to make money. I do think that having a financially viable Fediverse is important; it’s one of our goals. But that can mean a lot of different things: coops, non-profits, grants, or companies.
But the money is a means to an end: having positive, independent social networking software and services.
@julian @silverpill no recos for consumers yet, but: I’d start with content negotiation, then Link headers. From there, fallback to <link> elements in HTML. Last recourse, try Webfinger, especially for non-HTML resources like images.