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  • Absolutely should be. 11 seasons with two arguably elite or at least very very good QBs, and this franchise only has three playoff appearances.

    I’ll give him credit that Telesco has done his best work under Staley, this is the best roster he’s ever put together arguably let down more by coaching than talent. But at the end of the day it’s a failure for the GM to never make an AFCCG appearance over that length of tenure with Rivers and Herbert never even missing a game.


  • This was well said, especially the analogy of DJ vs Curry in FG%. Numbers don’t always tell the whole story when those two play under very different circumstances.

    Part of me wonders if the ‘performance’ of each offensive line is missing a variable related to the quarterback. For instance there’s Pocket Time vs QB Time to Throw, or Pressures vs QB Average Depth of Target.

    Like you said this is a neat methodology and gets a lot right. But it’s missing something to match the eye test.



  • The state of QBs in the league right now is just too young to guarantee anyone a spot in the HOF if they were to retire today besides Mahomes and Rodgers.

    Seriously - among the QB starters only Rodgers, Wilson, Stafford, Garoppolo, Tannehill, Carr, Geno, Dak, and Cousins are 30 or older. Only Rodgers has won MVP and only 3 have won a ring (Rodgers, Wilson, Stafford). Maybe Stafford has a shot with his Super Bowl ring and association with record-setting receiver seasons like Kupp and Johnson. But no one has reached the same level of career success as Rodgers, and a few are approaching their end as starters (Garoppolo, Tannehill, maybe Wilson).

    There’s definitely younger guys with high ceilings and early accomplishments like Mahomes (MVP x2, Super Bowl x2, 1st Team All-Pro x2), Jackson (MVP, 1st Team All-Pro), Allen (2nd Team All-Pro), Hurts (2nd Team All-Pro, 1x NFC Champion), Herbert (historic OROY), Burrow (CPOY, 1x AFC Champion).

    But excluding Mahomes and maybe Jackson, those are really weak resumes for the HOF.