The lahrer

The first one sometimes has a physical paywall, though.

Back in my day…

A nation that enslaves another forges its own chains.

The reason why Americans don’t do anything. The United States is the modern English empire.

Bruh, it’s never the scabs who are the real problem.

The constant is imperialism and class. We have technically been without both for most of the time modern homo sapiens have been around.

Yes, and Mom & Pop are also exploiting their own children for unpaid child labor.

This is the logic of fascism. It happened in colonialist empires everywhere.

There are examples in the US, South Africa, and Rhodesia where white workers unions organized to prevent black slave labor from taking their jobs.

This is also where a lot of the anti-Chinese racism came from because Chinese immigrants were replacing higher paying white rail-worker jobs. It was a point of conflict between the American white working class and the American bourgeoisie who would rather employ Chinese worker they could pay inhumanely low wages to (although the reason why they were so exploitable was because of racism).

It’s revisionist to say that this was entirely imposed upon workers from above. White workers were given the easier choice to improve conditions somewhat for themselves without risking much by punching down on colonized workers. In every scenario where this has happened in history, the majority of the racially privileged working class have always sided with colonialism against the colonized working class (it is a statistical law) because it was the safest and easiest way to guarantee some economic security.

True!

I can’t tell what this is trying to say, sorry.

Okay, I do oppose people who think China can do no wrong as well, I’m just used to interacting with users who conceal their support for actually balkanizing China with a mask of anti-colonialism.

Sorry. My shields were up.

Then what is your position? If you’re in the global North, then what’s the point of constantly pointing out that both sides are bad when you agree that one side is worse?

It’s like the communists writing letters to Iranian prisoners coinciding with Iran getting invaded. Why now? Why is this your priority?

Well, since we exist in the real world. Tell me. What’s the most likely scenario if China splits up into however many entities you think would be enough to achieve decolonization? I already know it’s a policy of the US government to support this. So, who would benefit the most from that?

I don’t gargle China’s boot, but I think it’s a little hypocritical to equally condemn the US and China as if the two things are comparable. China isn’t in the imperial core and its workers are exploited by Western finance capital, China only passively benefits from looking the other way when they get cheap commodities imported from Africa or India, they are not the ones who actually colonize the global South and cause unequal exchange to exist, they don’t install comprador dictatorships, or engage in imperialist war. In fact, most of the time they side with the anti-imperialist side for realpolitik reasons against the US.

Comparing Western and Eastern chauvinism as if they’re the same is the Western chauvinism I am talking about, you are underplaying Western imperialism and over exaggerating Eastern imperialism to make a false equivalence. China is a tiny empire, but because they’re a tiny empire their active imperialism pretty much ends outside their borders and their interests right now are undermining the power of Western capital, making them extremely useful for the global South to develop into self-sufficiency and break out of neocolonialism. A globalized system of extraction is much worse than a fractured world of many petty empires, a worker’s revolution is much more likely to succeed in the ladder, in the former most of the capital in the world is organized against them.

You should know that imperialism is a systemic thing, not a policy of individual states, that’s not materialist at all. Imperialism is based on monopoly power and is driven by things like unequal exchange and debt trapping, and enforced by things like weaponized specialization, balkanization, and military aid for comprador governments or interventions.

Imperialism has to be fractured into semi equal parts or else the largest part (the West) will just divide and conquer the smaller parts. I support China only in so far as they’re a huge fracture in the previously world-spanning neoliberal empire of finance and oil based in the West. God willing, it fractures further.

I actually am pro-purity test, especially on the English speaking internet which is filled with Amerikkkans, Englanders, and Klanadians. Those people should only be accepted in leftist spaces after they have erased all of the vestiges of their Western supremacism.

Well are you what I just described? The meme is complaining about Western chauvinists, are you not opposed to that?

Wow, this many down-votes, already? You throw an insult on the floor and its recipients come to pick it up.

Yes, but the examples in recent history are often instigated. Like salafists wouldn’t have anywhere near the same influence without Saudi Arabia, and Saudi Arabia basically wouldn’t exist without US support.

The Shi’a Sunni sectarianism was helped (at least in Syria) by the US government.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06DAMASCUS5399_a.html

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