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2·54 minutes agoI would be more concerned about the technology that often comes from non-European, autocratic countries. Europe risks to replace its dependence from Russian fossil fuel with dependence from Chinese renewable energy tech.
The problem with fascist parties like the AfD, CCP, and all the others is that they don’t care about democracy and human rights.
But if she’s working with Chinese bureaucrats on an economic plan …
You have again (maybe intentionally?) misunderstood the issue. China is working to undermine democracy in Germany (as well as it does elsewhere, btw). What the AfD and China have in mind has nothing to do with an ‘economic plan.’ The China-related scandals of AfD politicians and arrests of their AfD staff last year are only a faint spark of the ‘plan’ they pursue.
This is not for, but against Germany and its democratic institutions what they are doing.
Yeah, and let us not forget that many of their voters receive their ‘information’ exclusively from social media, and here primarily from Tiktok and Xitter. The algorithms likely don’t show them anything bad of China, Russia, AfD, …
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You clearly have misunderstood the whole thing here.
There is nothing in this story that reflects the headline. It’s pure guesswork.
We must not pigeonhole people, not in the US nor anywhere else. As I write this comment there are apparently two US citizens in this thread who definitely don’t appear to fit into your description. [Edit typo.]
It says Tiktok and Twitter, so the tech giants come from China and the U.S. here. And they are not (only) aiding Russia. The AfD has close connections to China, and Beijing is very interested in the rise of the far right in Germany and the rest of Europe.
I don’t want to post each of these pieces individually, and you will read the news anyway, so here’s in the comment section another one on the topic:
[…] EFIS analysts conclude that while “the pace of the Russian military’s rearmament will depend on the duration and outcome of Russia’s war in Ukraine,” Russia is actively mobilising more resources despite the extensive losses on the battlefield. If the conflict in Ukraine were to end under terms favourable to Moscow or become a frozen conflict, the EFIS suggests that Russian forces “will be permanently stationed in more significant numbers than before 24 February 2022” along the borders of NATO member states near Russia—including Estonia […]
Earlier this month, Danish defence minister warns Russia could attack NATO in 3-5 years:
Denmark should speed up its military investments after new intelligence indicates that Russia is rearming faster than expected and that it could attack a NATO country within three to five years, the Danish defence minister said […] “Russia will test Article 5 and NATO’s solidarity. That was not NATO’s assessment in 2023. This is new knowledge that is coming to the fore now,” he said.
The changed threat assessment comes after other European NATO countries have made similar warnings in recent weeks.
[Edit typo.]
You have as little proof of that as I do. And later editing of articles and headlines without any note of that is sadly extremely common with online media especially when is comes to breaking news where the outlets complete with each other to have exclusive scopes on their website faster than others.
Euractiv (as many others) does that frequently, and any edit is “time-stamped” automatically as soon as the editor edits. This is the original version.
(And this competition for scoops is primarily on the agency level, not here with Euractiv which aims at the public audience. I used to work for agencies and know that first-hand, but also agencies clearly mark any edits with time and date, that I can tell you for sure.)
Clarity was your word. And the transcript is always edited as someone already explained. But the article doesn’t appear to have been edited indeed. It’s the original version.
The Internet archive seems to have not captured the old version either, but I am not making it up, and the article does say the the interview was edited for “clarity”.
I don’t say you make something up, but they don’t say to have edited for “clarity,” I can’t see this at least (just correct me if I am wrong). They are really referring to the transcript as already said.
After the soviet union collapse many european countries just stopped caring. We don’t need soldiers or equipment anymore.
As one of those Europeans who ‘stopped caring:’ I hate to say it, but me and my like-minded fellows, we were all wrong …
Not that I think Mr. Erdogan wouldn’t have an own agenda here, but it’s amazing that he says something I can agree with. It’s a rare event.
Have you been living under a rock the last couple of years?
That’s a weird question, especially for a moderator and the obvious fact that I seem to be not the only one who ‘has been living under a rock’ …
The weaponisation works like this: someone promotes what many people consider a “balanced” opinion and then waits for someone like you to show up and throw a fit and demand a removal of this “vile propaganda”. If it actually gets removed that’s a win, because then they can appear as the reasonable victims of censorship in the view of their target audience. The next step is then to promote their own propaganda platform without this “vile censorship” where they can fully control the narrative towards the then captured audience.
This is a strange justification imo, because so you can never remove anything as they can always celebrated it as a win in the view of their target audience. If you argue that way, you may never remove anything. The bottom line is that @europe@feddit.org is supporting dictatorial propaganda, even if users like the one in question is openly threatening people in a way that perfectly echos Russian narratives.
No, this view doesn’t come from such regimes. It has been weaponized to some extend by such regimes, and I agree that it can be problematic, but by shutting down a view many people have you are exactly playing into the hands of such regimes.
This is nitpicking. What @bundalowtill and others are doing is spreading propaganda. I don’t see how you ‘play into the hands of such regimes’ if you take this down. If you don’t take this down, they spread further.
I don’t ‘toss out’ the AfD and the CCP. This article is about Germany and China, and I don’t see why I woukd engage in whataboutery.